Originally Posted by BubblyMasquerade
Best Bang for you buck?
$160 for a hoody is already bordering on ludicrous and while they may be good, they are worth no where near that kinda of crap markup. American Apparel thermal lined hoodies are my recommendation, even if they break down in 2 years or whatever you've still saved a fucking 120 bucks.
I have American Apparel hoodies as well. At $54 (for the thermal lined kind - the non-thermal lined $40 hoodies are not that great), they are a good deal. However, W+H hoodies are far superior. The materials are much better, the construction methods used are much more expensive and durable (for example, all the stitching is flatfelled, rather than lockstitched - this takes up far more thread, and is technically more difficult, but also makes the seams far less likely to break), and the trims are top notch. The riri zippers used cost about $14 apiece. (I believe that they may be using Lampo these days, which are slightly cheaper.) The stock YKK zippers that they use on an AA zipper cost less than 20x that. Britalian also asked for a form fitting hoodie. W+H (formerly Spruce) hoodies are much more form fitting than AA ones - i.e., they have a higher and tighter arm hole, and more form fitting arms. Also, W+H hoodies do not, in general, have the color fading and shrinkage problems that AA hoodies have.
Yes, $160 is a fair bit for a hoodie, but in this case you get what you pay for. The price for CYC (non-zip) manufactured sweatshirts are in the range of $40, with a minimum of 500 per color. That is not the retail price. That is the cost per piece to other brands who then put graphics on it, wash it, and otherwise process it, so the wholesale price is significantly higher when it goes to retailers, who generally multiply that by 2.2. That is the price of other designer sweatshirts you normally buy.
American Apparel hoodies (the $40 kind, the $54 kind are not available except at AA stores, AFAIK) wholesale in the range of $10-13, depending on the quantity you buy. So do Lees 50/50s. And those retail for even less than AA, about $30. And they are more durable too.
Please don't be one of those guys who says "Dude, there is no way a shirt should cost $300. You can get van Heusen shirts for like, $30, man." That type of blanket statement is ignorant and irritating. There are material differences between, say, a Borrelli shirt and a van Heusen shirt. Whether those differences are worth the extra $270 to you is another matter altogether, and is a matter of opinion rather than fact. The same goes for pretty much any type of garment these days.