Non-incendiary thread: Is male homosexuality correlated with narcisissm? - Page 5

The thing I want to know is why do so many people seem to think any good looking male actor is gay? 'He has a girlfriend.' 'He has a wife.' 'He has children.' 'NO, STILL GAY. IT'S COVER.' It's like some people need them to be gay or something, that people MUST KNOW THE TRUTH. I don't doubt there's a bunch of closeted actors who might have shame or whatnot, but there's these crazy people who think the world needs to know the truth if they are, and if you say 'well, he has been married for 8 years and has 2 kids', they freak out, like if you believe that makes them straight you are stupid. Ridiculous.

All of my goodlooking male "Hollywood" clients have been straight. That said, one is frequently naked when I arrive at his estate for a meeting. Of course, his wife and young children are also naked. Only the children are quick to don clothing.

Good-looking and little clothing can lead to children....

There are many reasons why people often think actors are gay. Appearance often is a big part of it. Boyishness is associated with homosexuality, perhaps because gay men are in fact relatively likely to have less masculine facial features. That also goes along with height; lack of stature, common among actors, apparently is associated with male homosexuality. Also, many actors are thin, and several studies have shown that thinness is more common among gay males. Interestingly, despite the gay "pretty boy" belief, openly (or obvious but uncomfirmed) gay male celebrities on average might be less attractive than heterosexual male celebrities.

Wait, I thought there were some South Korean scientists who were able to turn female mice into lesbians by removing/altering a gene...

No, no correlation. A lot of it is social and historical in nature, based around performance/identity/in-group out-group, etc. It is no more related than the "are all hairdressers gay" or "actors gay," which when looked at historically how certain careers have been more friendly/open to gays in times of oppression, and hence within that new subcultures develop, which create new patterns, performances, identities, etc. If you meet a large group of gays outside of a gay conference, bar, etc. you'll see that pretty much their personalities, ideas, etc. run the gamut, as much as straight people. It's just that it is easier to stereotype them, because often in an attempt of misplaced solidarity and the simultaneous excitement/irritation at suddenly finding a whole world of others like themselves, they stereotype themselves. Excitement because you aren't alone, irritation because growing up in your small town, you felt yourself a sort of special flower. I think, perhaps, the narcisism comes because of this simultaneous contradiction. We grew up (many of us) in environments where we had to reinvent the wheel, from square one: no role models, no books, magazines, etc. "for us," no real boyfriends to explore who we were, except maybe a few furtive kisses in the woodshed. THEN, (usually in college) we move off and find a whole other world of people just like us. It is a strange, wonderful, frightening realization and sometimes leads to a competitive atmosphere of trying to out-queer the queers. The need/history of special-flowerdom (even a negative feeling when growing up), nevertheless is still special-flowerdom, a feeling that is hard to abandon when it has been so foundational and a very real (and important) defense mechanism. Just my opinion, of course, but overall there is nothing special about homosexuality any more than there is anything special about heterosexuality. Everything that we call as such is just a construction with multiple, complicated sources observable through an analysis of discourse.

As I study psichologie , I was about to make a thread about " how narcissist are us, suit lovers ? "

Back to the topic, not all gay are narcissist or histrionic , both inside a DSM or close.

Most of the are on the contrary , they hide from the society instead of show themselves so DSM on the other axis , passive agressive, fear to the other sex from child traumas or abuses must be the cause for a lot of homosexualism.

And my other tesis is the abuse of hormones on cows, not a joke, this is been studyng seriously as the effect continues on humans. changing the human hormone balance.

We have been studying the case of a girl with grown breast with 8 years old , when that milk was no more taken , her breast reduced.