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post #16 of 43
Originally Posted by Manton
I thought it was only 72. This changes everything. Maybe.

I distinctly remember 88 from this guy's telling. It made me reconsider Duchamp's readymades.
post #17 of 43
This kind of reminds me of the PCU quote: -Gotta car? -No. -Someone on your floor will. Find him and make friends with him. But at SC, if you don't have a car as a grad...it's rough. I finished undergrad a few years ago and while a few friends didn't have a car, they were definitely in the minority and were pretty dependent on others. Yes, LA has a "public transportation" system. Right. If you wanted to be adventurous, SC does have a tram service to take you to/back from Union Station which is the hub of all the lines. But that tram only runs certain hours... As far as off-campus living goes, expect to pay around $500 upwards to share a place, maybe $800-$1000+ for your own studio if you can find a spot. Quality definitely varies but there are a few new places that have been built lately. Campus is completely centralized with the school of music being on the northside of campus. I took a few music classes while I was there and definitely enjoyed the program. Had a few music minor/major friends who all said their professors were pretty intense at what they did. Hope this helps.
post #18 of 43
The campus is very centralized and compact. All the buildings and classes you'd ever use are all within the "compound." Getting around the immediate campus is a breeze. There are trams and cars that can transport you within the student filled area 24/7. If you google map.... the general area where all students are is bordered by figueroa/adams/vermont on the north, and the more quiet but "spooky" west side by exposition/normandie/jefferson. Anything within this region is filled with students and not bad at all. I'd say the danger of the area is very overhyped. It's not the prettiest part of town, but theres no reason to fear for your life. (Even though they can be annoying, I like the fact that the campus police probably have more liberty to shoot a thug than the real police.) It really is like an oasis though.

Nevertheless... LA is a car town, the car is indispensible. Campus won't be an issue, but if you want to see the rest of LA a car is recommended. It is amazing at just how much you can do and see just a short trip away though. USC is so centralized, you can go to Beverly Hills, Santa Monica, Malibu, Pasadena, Hollywood, Burbank, Long Beach, Downtown, etc etc all within 25 minutes (pending traffic).

Yea, undergrad and grad seem to lead different lives. There shouldn't be anything stopping you from joining in all the undergrad activities though.
whodini's price ranges are spot on. It's hard, but try to find that landlord who won't screw you.

johnapril- Spudnuts is tasty, but was this burrito place Chanos? or the place right next door which is really good (probably newer than 93 though). I try to reserve Chano's for extremely drunken indulgences
post #19 of 43
Thread Starter 
The apartment prices seem like a pleasant surprise. Way lower than what I was expecting in NYC.
post #20 of 43
I'm currently a grad student at USC. The campus is quite centralized (10-15 minute walk from one end to the other), and the neighborhood is at least tolerable a few blocks from campus in any direction. I personally wouldn't live nearby, but there are several students in my program who do and haven't had any problems.

For reference I live in West LA and commute by car on surface streets... ~20 minutes in either direction. Definitely acceptable by LA standards. Get a car. Public transportation in Los Angeles is horrible. I'll repeat that, because it bears repeating: horrible.

Feel free to PM me if you have any specific questions about the current state of the campus.
post #21 of 43
Originally Posted by alflauren
Geez...it's not that bad. It is an island in a questionable area, but it's not like there are hookers and dealers all along the street as soon as you get off campus.

You do need a car. Good part about LA is that it's a good place to get a used car. Most used cars are in much better condition for the model year than in any other part of the country - no snow or bad weather. (My sister's neighbor has a classic 70's Jag in mint condition. He parks it on the street.)

The only upside to riding the bus is that you can work on your Spanish.
Seconded. I lived near USC when I was a summer associate at a downtown firm, just after the Rodney King riots (when things were worse than they are now). It wasn't that bad. I used to run a lot at night, from down around the campus to up around Echo Park and back - never any problems. You use all the same cautions you'd use in any urban environement. It's not "the hood", although it can be rough and semi-industrial. But it's not Compton, for example. More sad, disturbing homeless people than AK-wielding gang members. As others have said, you don't need a car to get around campus per se, but you really do need a car living in LA.
post #22 of 43
I just started school and live in an off-campus apartment, a short five minute walk away. I stayed up late every night by partying at frat row, going to University Village, finding a place to eat on Fig, and even walking to the parking center and I never felt that I was in danger. There are alot of campus security walking around and the school provides trams to transport students late at night.
post #23 of 43
Thread Starter 
Thanks for all the information. I'm going there sometime in Novembre to check it out. I'm very excited to see this place.
post #24 of 43
Originally Posted by TrojanGarb
johnapril- Spudnuts is tasty, but was this burrito place Chanos? or the place right next door which is really good (probably newer than 93 though). I try to reserve Chano's for extremely drunken indulgences

The burritto place was two doors down from Spudnuts in the same stripmall. They used to let you smoke there. What a great city.
post #25 of 43
Originally Posted by Violinist
The apartment prices seem like a pleasant surprise. Way lower than what I was expecting in NYC.
Until one comes to see New York City and State as vast, all powerful criminal conspiracies desinged to squeeze as much of your money as possible, through as many different avenues as possible, one does not really understand them.
post #26 of 43
I went to ucla four years without a car and did fine. I dont think I could do it as a grad though.
post #27 of 43
Originally Posted by Garrett
I went to ucla four years without a car and did fine. I dont think I could do it as a grad though.

UCLA is a bit different than SC. Westwood Village offers a lot of stuff to do, and its fairly close to both Beverly Hills and the beach. Did you notice how many SC students were at Westwood Village?
post #28 of 43
Is there some type of relationship between a university and the surronding area where you're going to see higher or lower real estate prices?

I would have thought that having a first class university would help to gentrify the surronding areas. Perhaps, its the opposite where the transienent cycle of the students destablizes it.

Did UCLA and USC come first, or was their surronding neighborhood already established at that point?

I was just passing through Palo Alto recently, and I didn't see anything particularly special about it. Does Stanford play a role in Palo Alto's sky rocketing real estate prices?
post #29 of 43
My sense is that on balance having a major university is a boon, it's merely one factor in a very complex, dynamic marketplace.
By way of example, I think housing prices in Palo Alto have more to do with the tech boom in that area that with the proximity of Stanford per se. However, the presence of Stanford certainly had at least some causal relationship with the area's becoming such a major center of gravity for the dot-com/tech industry.
post #30 of 43
First, Palo Alto is much nicer than LA. And some of the areas nearby are very ritzy w/ expensive large homes. Stanford is a much better school than USC. I even like UCLA more than USC.

yes, the differences b/w the surrounding areas of USC/UCLA are different. A friend of mine lived near UCLA (while getting his Economics PhD) in the seventies for a very reasonable rent (apt near the 405 fwy). Yet, it was very near Bev Hills. So near, that when he was in a nearby market, he saw Suzanne Pleschette from the then popular Newhart show.

I attended Cal Poly, SLO. A beautiful area. Low crime (although prisons were nearby; one held, at that time, Huey Newton). More restaurants per capita than SF.

Another better school is Berkeley. Nice surrounding "college" area which is also near some expensive homes. Great academic reputation too.
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