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post #46 of 77
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Originally Posted by luk-cha View Post
not really MH71 nor TG73 but i cross over of the 2, like HRoi said LC88 hahahaha

I thought it was the LC168 last
post #47 of 77
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Originally Posted by Xiaogou View Post
I thought it was the LC168 last

more like LC1314
post #48 of 77
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Originally Posted by voxsartoria View Post
Rudolf Scheer & Söhne.

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Originally Posted by poorsod View Post
I thought it was snark aimed at fritzl.

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Originally Posted by fritzl View Post
not at all

It probably was.

Fritzl despises Scheer (look through older postings of his).

After all, Scheer will not do wood-pegged (that probably qualifies them as traitors to the cause) and their look has nothing in common with the stuff which Fritzl promotes here as ‘Austro/Hungarian’. Scheer’s shoes are not short and stumpy, because Scheer places the ‘vamp point’ much higher, so their designs are long in the vamp and short in the quarters.

Same generic (Austrian) style, two interpretations


Scheer


Maftei
post #49 of 77
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Originally Posted by bengal-stripe View Post
It probably was. Fritzl despises Scheer (look through older postings of his). After all, Scheer will not do wood-pegged (that probably qualifies them as traitors to the cause) and their look has nothing in common with the stuff which Fritzl promotes here as "˜Austro/Hungarian'. Scheer's shoes are not short and stumpy, because Scheer places the "˜vamp point' much higher, so their designs are long in the vamp and short in the quarters. Same generic (Austrian) style, two interpretations Scheer Maftei
They are foul. Especially the bottom one.
post #50 of 77
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Originally Posted by bengal-stripe View Post
Fritzl despises Scheer (look through older postings of his).

After all, Scheer will not do wood-pegged (that probably qualifies them as traitors to the cause) and their look has nothing in common with the stuff which Fritzl promotes here as "˜Austro/Hungarian'. Scheer's shoes are not short and stumpy, because Scheer places the "˜vamp point' much higher, so their designs are long in the vamp and short in the quarters.

Same generic (Austrian) style, two interpretations


Scheer


Maftei


I have no horse in the race, but for what it's worth, I have seen short and stumpy shoes made by Scheer and sleek examples from Maftei.
post #51 of 77
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Originally Posted by bengal-stripe View Post
It probably was. Fritzl despises Scheer (look through older postings of his).
sorry, i really don't know what you are talking about.. ...again. Scheer is and will always be high on my list. maybe they do not do wood pegged nowadays, but they did, so what? pls take care of your own things and stop interpreting. period. i'm really pissed...
post #52 of 77
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Originally Posted by Sebastian View Post
I have no horse in the race, but for what it's worth, I have seen short and stumpy shoes made by Scheer and sleek examples from Maftei.
I don't mind the shape, whole cuts are my favourite shoe. I don't like the faux(?) seam on the shoe and the leather on the bottom one is god dam awful. It looks like tree bark. The whole () point, of a wholecut, is that it is minimalist, there are no fancy medallions, textured leathers, superfluous seams etc. The wholecut derives is beauty from the purity of it's design, from it's simplicity.
post #53 of 77
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Originally Posted by fritzl View Post
sorry, i really don't know what you are talking about.. ...again. Scheer is and will always be high on my list. maybe they do not do wood pegged nowadays, but they did, so whatß pls take care of your own things and stop interpreting. period. i'm really pissed...
We can see that.You left an Eszett on the end of word what.
post #54 of 77
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Originally Posted by George View Post
I don't mind the shape, whole cuts are my favourite shoe. I don't like the faux(?) seam on the shoe and the leather on the bottom one is god dam awful. It looks like tree bark.

The whole () point, of a wholecut, is that it is minimalist, there are no fancy medallions, textured leathers, superfluous seams etc.

The wholecut derives is beauty from the purity of it's design, from it's simplicity.

The faux seam is an Austrian / Scheer signature thing, at least I have only seen one on a Scheer shoe in real life. Not my cup of tea either.

But we shouldn't forget the shoes shown above are bespoke shoes and therefor reflect the personal taste of the owner, not necessarily of the maker.

And as I said, I have seen shoes made by Scheer, which were very much resembling the ones fritzl posted here. So it's wrong that Scheer and fritzl have a totally different aesthetic. It all comes down to what the individual client of a Bespoke maker wants, right?
post #55 of 77
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Originally Posted by George View Post
I don't mind the shape, whole cuts are my favourite shoe. I don't like the faux(?) seam on the shoe and the leather on the bottom one is god dam awful. It looks like tree bark.

The whole () point, of a wholecut, is that it is minimalist, there are no fancy medallions, textured leathers, superfluous seams etc.

The wholecut derives is beauty from the purity of it's design, from it's simplicity.

the tree bark looking leather is "shark skin" not the best example of how it could be used but it is a nice leather and i like it a lot
post #56 of 77
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Originally Posted by George View Post
I don't like the faux(?) seam on the shoe
Are you sure that's a fake seam? It looks real enough to me. I see a line right down the middle that is so typical of two pieces of leather being joined together that I am not convinced it is either a faux seam nor am convinced that it is a whole cut. That said, I've never seen a Scheer nor seen a faux seam done on the forepart (Why?!!).
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Originally Posted by George View Post
The wholecut derives is beauty from the purity of it's design, from it's simplicity.
True dat, but one of the attractions for shoemakers is that it is also a little more difficult to do well...if only because of that simplicity. It is also one of the most extravagant and expensive with regard to the cutting of the leather. The shark shoe, as well as the other (box calf?), look to me like they are seamed up the forepart. If so, they are not whole cuts and in fact, a forepart seamed shoe may be the easiest and cheapest style to make. If they truly are whole cuts and that truly is a faux seam, then I question why the devil it was done in the first place. It destroys the lines of a full cut and adds nothing by way of strength or durability...just the opposite, in fact.
post #57 of 77
Don't wholecuts get ridiculous creases in them?
post #58 of 77
I may have to sink to new depths to afford these:
post #59 of 77
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Originally Posted by DocHolliday View Post
Nope, love 'em.

I still have never worn my brown Grants and may sell those.

Doc, it's almost criminal to keep such beautiful shoes under wraps. Wear those puppies!

That said, I've had a 3-4 year love affair with monkstraps. My "holy grail" shoe is the JL Vale, which is now discontinued . I actively dislike alligator shoes, but saw a pair of JL Vales in chestnut-colored alligator on ebay and had my first and only shoe-gasm. They were truly gorgeous (and also selling for several thousand dollars, so I'll never own a pair).
post #60 of 77
I've always wanted these:


http://cobblersweb.style.coocan.jp/b...6/g.marini.htm
See under "Order Shoe" cordovans

And these:

http://www.menshoes.de/de/heinrich-d...nkelbraun.html

Never seen either.
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