Styleforum › Forums › Lifestyle › Health & Body › Natural or Organic skin care?
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Natural or Organic skin care? - Page 2

post #16 of 27
8/16/10 at 3:29am
Quote:
Originally Posted by Reggs View Post
I said absorb anything. I don't understand the link at all. We're talking about ingredients that have been used on human skin for 100s of years, or gone through stringent tests, not swimming in lake water with fecal bacteria. Do you people think vaccines cause the downs too? I'll also ask anyone what natural means. It's not a regulated term.
I don't trust many vaccines. Foreign chemicals can do all types of things when in the body, from disrupting hormones to damaging DNA. The effects are usually long term and not like a bacterial infection. "Natural" isn't regulated by the FDA but all it takes is reading the ingredient listing and being knowledgeable of them.
Reply
Reply
post #17 of 27
8/16/10 at 5:01am
I knew it. I just knew it.
Reply
Reply
post #18 of 27
8/16/10 at 5:44am
http://www.safecosmetics.org/

http://www.safecosmetics.org/article.php?id=225

Quote:
Natural and Organic Products



You might expect a product labeled "pure, natural and organic" to be, well ... pure, natural and organic. But you might be in for a surprise.

Unlike the food industry, there are no legal standards for organic or natural personal care products sold in the United States. This means that companies can, and often do, use these terms as marketing gimmicks. For example, the top-selling shampoo in the United States is Clairol Herbal Essences, which until recently claimed to offer users an "organic experience." However, there isn't much about this product that is either herbal or organic; it contains more than a dozen synthetic petrochemicals and has a moderate toxicity rating in Skin Deep.

Even top-selling brands in the natural products sector have been found to contain 1,4-dioxane, a synthetic chemical carcinogen.

New industry standards are emerging that may help consumers differentiate between the natural and not-so-natural products, but multiple standards with different meanings may not be helpful for consumers. For example, some require safety substantiation from a certifying body and others don't. The Campaign for Safe Cosmetics is advocating for a standard that means ingredients are both natural and safe for people.
IMPORTANT NOTICE: No media files are hosted on these forums. By clicking the link below you agree to view content from an external website. We can not be held responsible for the suitability or legality of this material. If the video does not play, wait a minute or try again later.       I AGREE

TIP: to embed Youtube clips, put only the encoded part of the Youtube URL, e.g. eBGIQ7ZuuiU between the tags.
Reply
Reply
post #19 of 27
8/16/10 at 1:07pm
Great video, but why was Aloe vera listed?

I don't think it's just a 50's mindset, but also because the chemicals they use are cheap which is why they can market a $2 bottle of shampoo.
Reply
Reply
post #20 of 27
8/16/10 at 5:02pm
There is nothing wrong with non-natural skincare products as long as the ingredients are not considered harmful.

There are plenty of products out there.
Reply
Reply
post #21 of 27
8/16/10 at 6:26pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by NoStyle14 View Post
There is nothing wrong with non-natural skincare products as long as the ingredients are not considered harmful.

There are plenty of products out there.

Yes, but what constitutes harm is part of the issue. The issue with alot of ingredients in non-natural products is not necessarily that they have definitely been proven harmful (at least not in certain quantities), but that the verdict is still out and therefore play it safe and stay away.

Parabens are obviously one such ingredient, so too are artificial coloring and fragrances.

I've just strated getting into the natural things so I'm still a bit confused by it (it's weird turning away from big name brands, like my favorite Kiehls, to brands I've never heard of before).

But I have started using only safe certified sunscreens by ewg's standards - I've opted for la roche posay and vichy: no fragrances, no parabens, use all the good sunblockers with UVA and UVB protection, yada yada.
Reply
Reply
post #22 of 27
8/17/10 at 10:43am
Quote:
Originally Posted by somatoform View Post
Yes, but what constitutes harm is part of the issue. The issue with alot of ingredients in non-natural products is not necessarily that they have definitely been proven harmful (at least not in certain quantities), but that the verdict is still out and therefore play it safe and stay away.

Parabens are obviously one such ingredient, so too are artificial coloring and fragrances.

I've just strated getting into the natural things so I'm still a bit confused by it (it's weird turning away from big name brands, like my favorite Kiehls, to brands I've never heard of before).

But I have started using only safe certified sunscreens by ewg's standards - I've opted for la roche posay and vichy: no fragrances, no parabens, use all the good sunblockers with UVA and UVB protection, yada yada.

Fair enough. I agree that it's better to play it safer than sorry. I use all products by Paula's Choice. She doesn't offer all natural-products, but she's done thorough research on what ingredients she puts into her products. No colors, no fragrances, etc.

Just becareful of "natural". Just because it's natural doesn't make it safe for your skin. Natural products usually only have a few ingredients so research (wiki) them to make sure they are safe. Arsnic is also natural but you wouldn't put it on your face.

What kind of suncare do you use? What is considered safe in your opinion. I thought the verdict is out on all sunscreens?
Reply
Reply
post #23 of 27
8/17/10 at 5:57pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nosu3 View Post
I don't trust many vaccines. Foreign chemicals can do all types of things when in the body, from disrupting hormones to damaging DNA. The effects are usually long term and not like a bacterial infection. "Natural" isn't regulated by the FDA but all it takes is reading the ingredient listing and being knowledgeable of them.

you're a fucking idiot.
Reply
Reply
post #24 of 27
8/17/10 at 9:22pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by somatoform View Post
Yes, but what constitutes harm is part of the issue. The issue with alot of ingredients in non-natural products is not necessarily that they have definitely been proven harmful (at least not in certain quantities), but that the verdict is still out and therefore play it safe and stay away. Parabens are obviously one such ingredient
No they arnt http://reverseskinaging.com/parabens.html
Quote:
Parabens have a long history of use in cosmetic products and their safety is well-documented and continually evaluated. Parabens have been specifically recognized as safe for use in food by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA). According to the FDA, parabens are the most widely used cosmetic preservatives in the United States. FDA believes that at the present time there is no reason for consumers to be concerned about the use of cosmetics containing parabens. The Cosmetic Ingredient Review (CIR) reviewed the safety of methylparaben, propylparaben, and butylparaben and concluded they were safe for use in cosmetic products at levels up to 25%. We use parabens at levels from 0.01 to 0.1%. On November 14, 2003, the CIR began the process to reopen the safety assessments of methylparaben, ethylparaben, propylparaben, and butylparaben in order to offer interested parties an opportunity to submit new data for consideration. In September 2005, the CIR decided to re-open the safety assessment for parabens to request exposure estimates and a risk assessment for cosmetic uses. In December 2005, after considering the margins of safety for exposure to women and infants, the Panel determined that there was no need to change its original conclusion that parabens are safe as used in cosmetics. (The CIR is an industry-sponsored organization that reviews cosmetic ingredient safety and publishes its results in open, peer-reviewed literature. FDA participates in the CIR in a non-voting capacity.)
From FDA: http://www.fda.gov/cosmetics/product.../ucm128042.htm
Reply
Reply
post #25 of 27
8/18/10 at 12:39am
I'm about to DROP KNOWLEDGE.

I use some generic face scrub from Target to wash my face.

Then I soak a cotton ball in lemon juice. I use the little bottles because I can't be bothered to squeeze lemons every day.

Apply, remove after 15-30 minutes by splashing water on your face.

Give it 2-3 weeks so that your face gets used to it. After that you can use it even after getting a sunburn.

You're welcome, please now bow to me
Reply
Reply
post #26 of 27
8/18/10 at 1:02am
Quote:
Originally Posted by BubblyMasquerade View Post
idiot.
Great info, could you explain what is incorrect?
Quote:
Originally Posted by mundieTRAINS View Post
I'm about to DROP KNOWLEDGE. Then I soak a cotton ball in lemon juice. I use the little bottles because I can't be bothered to squeeze lemons every day. Apply, remove after 15-30 minutes by splashing water on your face. Give it 2-3 weeks so that your face gets used to it. After that you can use it even after getting a sunburn. You're welcome, please now bow to me
I just order a sliced lemon with water at restaurants, you can apply it to your face directly right there and use the whole slice as a scrub.
Reply
Reply
post #27 of 27
8/18/10 at 2:13am
Check out Sponge products. http://www.spongeskincare.com/ Natural! Go to the Barney's website and sign up for a facial. It's free.
Reply
Reply
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Health & Body
Styleforum › Forums › Lifestyle › Health & Body › Natural or Organic skin care?