best off-the-rack suits - Page 3

As it turns out, a heavily machined "handmade" garment, not that there's anything wrong with that.

We had this discussion a few months ago, but I would say: 1st tier: Kiton Brioni Borrelli Attolini Oxxford (Bijan?) 2nd tier: Barbera RLPL St Andrews Isaia Zegna Napoli Belvest D'Avenza(sp?) 3rd tier: Canali Corneliani Baldessarini Armani Black label Zegna (regular label) Vestamenta 4th tier: RL Blue/Black Label Armani Collezioni Hugo Boss Rankings in groups are approximately in order.

I agree with these two assessments.

Why have you lumped Corneliani in with Polo? Corneliani is a much better suit with a decent amount of handwork, assuming you're talking about the main line. Also, Polo's stuff uses fusing, which Corneliani doesn't.

Edit: To clarify, I mean the mainline Corneliani stuff isn't fused.

Absolutely right. Oxxford is great if you like looking like my late grandfather, not if you're under the age of 50. Quality certainly plays a role, I would never argue otherwise, but if it isn't in a cut I like then it's useless to me.

At any rate, the rankings in this thread are unintentionally funny.

What hyperbole.

Yeah, it depends on your build, too. Even as a 42, I am saddled with boxy shoulders and chest...and as a 52 was something of a cube.

Many of the RTW brands listed don't fit me particularly well, whereas Oxxford does. If getting something made for me, I generally go for something much more fitted and smaller and higher through the armholes (and sometimes I luck into an off-the-rack suit that fits me like that...but it's pretty unusual). So, even for us non-grandfathers, I think Oxxford has a market.

Then here's a little more for you. The only suits with less sex appeal than Oxxford are those that the trads salivate over.

Have you ever even seen an Oxxford suit, much less tried one on?

The Polo BLue Label (cheaper one) is half canvas but made by Corneliani. I have one, I like it. But I agree, except for Corneliani's Trend line (I think). Or is Trend still full floating canvas?

Yes. Any other questions?

Trend uses fusing, as does CC. Only Corneliani's mainline stuff is fully canvassed.

Agreed I'd say:
Oxxford---however they are essential sack suits other than the Radcliff.
No silo.

C. Attolini---Great silo.Great Fabrics. Beautiful clothing.Overpriced
Kiton--- Average Silo.Great Fabrics. Too Expensive and Overpriced
Borrelli--- Great sio.Great FAbrics.Best Value of the top tier. The cut is between Attolini and Kiton designed by one of Kiton's tailors.

Brioni--- Power Suit silo.(great for those with non athletic physiques.Great Fab. a little less handiwork.expensive.

L. Barbera Most under Rated Award. Fabrics are top notch.

Isaia--only the top of the line

Bogolio---Great cut, so so fabrics.

Then:

Canali
Zegna
Corneliani

Just my opinion though.

Where would you put Ravazzolo on your list? on par with Brioni?

How would you guys rank these suit makers?

Sartoria Partenopea and Pal Zileri.

Eddy Monetti? anyone heard of this brand?