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post #61 of 75
8/13/10 at 7:04pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2wMsnE2cvI
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post #62 of 75
8/14/10 at 9:30pm
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No offense taken. I enjoy discussing these types of issues with others, and I've always admired your tact around here.

"What-ifs" serve to assist reasoning by analogy. The point isn't to draw a direct inference, it is to see how two related ideas - however distant or near - inform each others' content. In this case, the "what-ifs" apply to the extent that they illustrate how harm CAN flow from purely passive behaviours/hobbies.

Someone might consider discovering that their mate sits around all day pricking holes into an effigy of their mother "harmless". I say what a person spends a majority of their time doing says a lot about that person's character - whether its sexual, violent, or whatever in nature. Sitting around jerking off to people shitting on each other is a miserable waste of time - and I feel no lack of compassion saying it.

I understand what an analogy is, but not all analogies work. My point was that comparing the two acts is pointless. It would be -- to use an analogy of my own -- like saying swating a mosquito is comprable to shooting your neighbor. It just simply isn't by any reasonable measure.



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There isn't a thing we do that doesn't impact our lives. Behaviours feed behaviours; patterns of thought congeal and become difficult to break; fetishes are satiated and then transform into other, more bizarre fetishes.

I think people are naive to think that the basic laws of our world don't apply to the realm of the mental. You are what you think. I don't deny that I have some seedy elements in my psychology - I assure you I do, far more than I probably know - but I spend my time contemplating and trying to understand those elements, not feeding them. I think that is the only thing that distinguishes a man from an animal-man. The former contemplates and exercises his will; the latter is simply a tool for his lusts.

As for what I do with MY time, of course I waste it. But there are wastes and there are wastes. I think we can safely say that lusting after shit is not the same as what I do on here, or elsewhere for that matter.

As hard as it might be for you to accept this, I am not passing "judgment" on this bloke. The Christians rightly say that we're all "born into sin" - that is, we all basically suck. I am merely attempting to rebut the view that a woman SHOULDN'T feel upset upon learning that her partner or romantic interest spends a great deal of his time doing stupid things, however "private" the sphere of his activity might be.

You're giving far too much power and credence to the idea that "you are what you think." There are thoughts, and there are thoughts. Your take on thought/free will also gives rise to beliefs that, for example, there are no accidents (where people are concerned, anyway). Well yes, there are. And just because a person experiences a thought does not convert it into some sort of instantaneous reality.
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post #63 of 75
8/15/10 at 1:26am
We have all farted at climax once, I'm sure. What if this guy was jacking off for the first time as a kid, but accidentally shart during the finish? And ever since, he just can't help himself. That does not make him a bad person in my book.
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post #64 of 75
8/15/10 at 3:11am
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Originally Posted by Sherman90 View Post
No offense taken. I enjoy discussing these types of issues with others, and I've always admired your tact around here.

"What-ifs" serve to assist reasoning by analogy. The point isn't to draw a direct inference, it is to see how two related ideas - however distant or near - inform each others' content. In this case, the "what-ifs" apply to the extent that they illustrate how harm CAN flow from purely passive behaviours/hobbies.

Someone might consider discovering that their mate sits around all day pricking holes into an effigy of their mother "harmless". I say what a person spends a majority of their time doing says a lot about that person's character - whether its sexual, violent, or whatever in nature. Sitting around jerking off to people shitting on each other is a miserable waste of time - and I feel no lack of compassion saying it.

Not to purposely bash on you, but that example of "pricking holes" isn't comparable to a sexual fetish. While a fetish could be a subconscious or intentional manifestation of something darker, by no means is that the only explanation. Whereas in your example, it's pretty biased - comparing the guy to a mother killer (?) just isn't reasonable (knee-jerk reaction by association). What's your take on masturbation in general, say with scat out of the picture? Does the type of porn a man watches define him?

Dedalus' idea, however silly, is relatively more reasonable. Fetishes, AFAIK, are often byproducts of influences during development resulting in a subconscious desire. In those cases, I don't think it will ever result in harmful actions. The woman in this situation is, of course, free to judge and scat is probably about as taboo/ugly as it gets (excluding crazies). That's more paranoia/emotion than rationality though.
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post #65 of 75
8/15/10 at 8:32am
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We have all farted at climax once, I'm sure.

actually, no.
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post #66 of 75
8/15/10 at 8:35am
i have never watched scat porn so am no expert but i imagine alot of it is about submission/humiliaiton, a topic which excites alot of people. i can imagine if it was guys crapping on girls and humiliating them then most women would probably be concerned. its like all those punish fuck videos which seem to be more and more common - it betrays a violent misogyny which is hard to forgive. i wouldnt want to be friends with someone like that. if it was guys being crapped on by girls in some kind of humiliating fashion (which again, alot of guys seem to be in to) then that seems a little less serious if not equally as creepy.
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post #67 of 75
8/15/10 at 8:46am
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My girlfriend and I have been on two double dates with this couple. The women dragged us into it, but me and the other boyfriend would chat and generally enjoy each other's company.

My girlfriend lets the female friend come over just before dinner because she called my girlfriend crying. She just found out that her boyfriend looks at scat porn all day while she's away.

I was truly shocked. I ate with this man. He seemed so normal. What on earth could I say to him if I ever see him in public?

Anyway, what deep dark random secret did you find out about someone seemingly normal?

Just admit, you want a hot lunch
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post #68 of 75
8/15/10 at 11:53am
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actually, no.

My wife was laying next to me when it happened.
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post #69 of 75
8/16/10 at 4:59am
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I understand what an analogy is, but not all analogies work. My point was that comparing the two acts is pointless. It would be -- to use an analogy of my own -- like saying swating a mosquito is comprable to shooting your neighbor. It just simply isn't by any reasonable measure.
What about necrophilia? That's a victimless act, and you cant argue anything against it other than throwing your hands in the air and saying "That's just wrong." In any case, I'm a bit surprised how this seems to get such a strong defense. If I didn't want to associate with someone because they wore affliction tshirts it would have been met with more acceptance than someone who gets off on scat porn.
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post #70 of 75
8/16/10 at 6:41am
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You really think that? You have a much more idealistic view of humanity than I. He's turned on by fecal matter - an easily available, almost free, mass-produced substance. It's not like he fantasizes about his wife being raped by "a pack of naggers" or sex with horses or another thing hard to obtain in reality.

He's turned on by poop, he has it available for free, I have no doubt he uses it.

If he has come of age while the internet was in its full blown glory it is quite likely that he, in fact, would not practice what he is watching. Researchers have noted a widening separation between sexual practices (actual or desired) and online pornography consumption; in other words a load of people watch stuff they probably never want to engage in.
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post #71 of 75
8/16/10 at 10:04am
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What about necrophilia? That's a victimless act, and you cant argue anything against it other than throwing your hands in the air and saying "That's just wrong."

In any case, I'm a bit surprised how this seems to get such a strong defense. If I didn't want to associate with someone because they wore affliction tshirts it would have been met with more acceptance than someone who gets off on scat porn.

Here's what's different about necrophilia: the friends and relatives of the deceased. It may be irrational, but there is still a strong attachment to the remains that we just can't shake. It's human nature. So I would turn this around and say this: if we ask for remains to be donated to science, would you ask people's next of kin to donate them to necrophiles? If you seriously say 'yes,' I'll call bullshit.

And remember: the deceased can't make their own decisions while scat porn actors can.

Avoid whomever you want. I don't care. Just don't be surprised when some people think less of you for judging a person harshly for what is in all likelihood a completely harmless fetish.
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post #72 of 75
8/16/10 at 1:46pm
^what about animal necrophilia?
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post #73 of 75
8/16/10 at 2:01pm
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^what about animal necrophilia?

Their friends and family would get upset, too. Just ask PETA.
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post #74 of 75
8/16/10 at 2:17pm
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Their friends and family would get upset, too. Just ask PETA.
I really wish I could find the video of Robert Schimmel doing a dead animal fucking bit in his act.
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post #75 of 75
8/16/10 at 7:11pm
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I really wish I could find the video of Robert Schimmel doing a dead animal fucking bit in his act.

My mom worked in the DA's office for a few years. There was someone on her floor that handled a case about a local serial dog rapist. People would woof at him as he would walk down the halls.
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