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Received my first MT shirt yesterday!

Overall I'm very pleased with the results. I did the $20 deal to make sure my measurements worked and it appears to be so far so good. I'll have to launder the shirt to determine any shrinkage before I'll know for sure.

A couple nitpicks:

Firstly, I selected the club collar and rounded french cuffs. The shape of the curves and the stitching on the curves are not perfect. I don't think any ordinary person will notice but a trained eye will be able to pick out these small flaws.

Secondly, the collar itself is prone to overlap if I wear a tie tied tightly. In other words, negative tie space. I really don't care for this look. I think I can fix it by relocating the top button to prevent the collar from cinching up too tightly. I'll end up with a slightly looser collar, however.

But like I said, overall, the shirt is fantastic and I'm very pleased. I'll definitely be a repeat customer. Now I just wish there were more traditional fabrics and patterns -- specifically, I'm now bemoaning the fact that there isn't a solid white pinpoint oxford around the $60-70 level. This would seem like an obvious standard that they ought to stock. I found "white" and "snow" pinpoint oxford fabrics, but each is at the $100 level.

Also, some basic, traditional blue/white stripes would seem like an obvious standard that after pouring through all the fabric selections seems to be missing. There are a few that come close, but nothing that nails it; I'm thinking something as simple as this:



The closest I've found (#s V35 and p191) unfortunately only come in "easy care" fabric.

I'll try to snap some photos of my shirt tonight.

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The code worked just fine for me.

I shop at MT. My two biggest peeves with you guys are this:
1. For your body measurements, you have two parameters: STOMACH and BODY.

Stomach
\t\t\t\t

Flat\t
Slight\t
Medium\t
Large\t
Hefty

Body
\t\t\t\t

Slim\t
Well built\t
Athletic\t
Regular\t
Hefty

However, this information is extremely redundant of one another. Moreover, I'm not sure how it could further help you, since you already have all the most necessary measurements, including height/weight, to create the shirt.

2. MOST IMPORTANTLY: You should DECONSTRUCT a standard shirt, and tell *US* what range of sizes this would fit, and I will explain to you what I mean by DECONSTRUCT, since I had to literally DONATE 4-5 of my first MT shirts, because I wasn't taking down the measurements that well. One thing that would be helpful to us is when you first ask us what our dress shirt sizes are here in the USA. For example, I am a 15.5" and 34/35. Then, your system should say: "From our analysis, the wearer of shirts this size have the following RANGE OF SIZES FOR THE
Neck\t 15.5 ------> This is exactly what you specified. \t
Chest\t 38-40\t
Waist\t 35-37\t
Hips\t 38-41
Shoulder\t 17.5-18.5\t
Left Sleeve Length\t 24-26\t
Right Sleeve Length\t inches 24-26
Left Wrist 6.5-7.5
Right Wrist\t 6.5-7.5
Bicep\t 14.5-15.5
Shirt Length\t 30-32\t
Armhole\t 18-20

As a note: I'd like to say that the 34"-35" that I wear for dress shirts can be derived by the fact that I my shoulder is 18" and my arm length is 25". Therefore half shoulders (9") + 25" for arm length is 34".

I realize that you have a built-in error-reducing algorithm, which would say "This measurement exceeds 12% of the standard sizing, and the standard sizing is calculated from statistics, but you can still go on" if the measurement is a little off, and if the measurement is severely off, it will say: "Measurement incorrect, please check, or you can not continue."

However, you should, especially for first timers, ask them what their standard dress shirt sizes are, since everybody who orders from MT knows what this is. And based on what this person says (i.e. 16.5" by 32/33"), you would have provided them the VERY TYPICAL range of your other measurements (i.e. your wrist, stomach, shoulder, etc.) based on who this shirt size can accommodate.

Has anyone else got the code to work?

Why bother when you can provide the EXACT measurements of every part? I think if you are to order MTM online, then you'd better know all that, at least after first couple of orders. Going with sizing like 15.5/33 is VERY insufficient. Just my 2c.

BTW, moderntailoremma, I think not having a $10 or $20 off coupon it is gonna cost you some first time customers, when they know the first order is very likely to be a waste. Regarding the shipping, isn't there a way you can do better? If you have sizable orders from US, just bulk mail to US every 2-3 days and redistribute within US. USPS priority will mail 2-3 shirts for $5. Just a suggestion.

I ordered a shirt almost exactly like that about two months ago in fabric P35, and I can attest that it's a great fabric (2 ply, 140s). Also, MT frequently removes old fabrics and adds new ones. If you don't see one you like, check again in a month or so.

You know you can filter your search for fabrics right? I'm not sure why you were having trouble finding a simple blue/white striped fabric. Have a look at these:
A3, 0216, P35, A98, A26, 991145

Uhm, yes, the filtering feature is pretty obvious. The examples that you list are all off-the-mark except for possibly the last one -- although even that looks like the stripe is too narrow to be a match.

I'm not saying they don't have any blue/white stripe shirts; like I said, they have a few that come close, but no match. The blue/white "university stripe" is an American staple that I would think would be in demand and it seems to be missing.

I agree with you. If you provide your exact dimensions for those 10 parameters (hips, waist, stomach, chest, biceps, wrist, neck, shoulder, arm, and shirt-length), YOU WILL NOT HAVE TO SPECIFY ANYTHING ELSE AT ALL. You should NOT have to specify your height, weight, or phsyique, since the dimensions of the shirt is derived from the 10 parameters that you have provided.

Another thing, I think that MT should only use "BODY MEASUREMENTS".

MT has the option of measuring one of your nicely fitting shirts, and they can replicate this. However, I believe that by doing this, you are only getting an OTR shirt with more options, but NOT A BESPOKE TAILORED FIT. Deriving a sizing scheme off a shirt results in a loss of sizing information, since we would all interpret sizes and measuring of dimensions differently (I know that when I take my own measurements, the numbers are not perfectly in agreement, but there is a small deviation even within 10 seconds of taking the measurements). Since measuring a shirt which you already own introduces errors into the sizing, they are better off simply knowing the dress shirt size and/or S/M/L/XL size of the shirt, and work from there.

MT measuring a shirt and "replicating" is like making a Xerox copy of a Xerox copy of a geometric pattern. For perfect accuracy and perfect reproducibility, take down all the parameters to describe that geometric pattern. This is analgous to the BODY MEASUREMENTS.

I took a shirt that fit properly in the shoulders to my alterations tailor and had him alter basically everything else to make it perfect. I then copied all of the resulting measurements and used that as my pattern for MT. Minimal effort, minimal cost, superb results.

If you want an expert tailor to measure your body and make you a shirt, then there are plenty of options. Internet MTM isn't one of them.