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post #2581 of 3282
I have to agree with much of what's been said about MT's cloth selection. They need to stock staple fabrics more consistently. As far as the "bad fabrics" go, just don't buy them. Then a decent cloth is available in the 40-70 dollar range, MT can't be beat.
post #2582 of 3282
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Nice!
Are they Herringbone Sydney Chinos? Pretty sure I have the same ones...although I may have tapered mine a bit more.

No, they're actually wool trou I got from Saba in my pre-SF days. Despite the generally poor quality of local stuff and my total lack of knowledge at the time I bought them, they're actually fantastic...

Just an aside while we're talking about taper: I've got a big head, so excessively slim trousers make me look like a chupa chup. Any other big-headed men (The Silentist, I'm looking at you) should think long and hard before tapering their trousers.
post #2583 of 3282
As to the comments about MT's fabric selection: they have gone some way towards addressing the criticisms and have introduced new staple fabrics they are going to keep in stock. The new staple fabrics are detailed here: http://moderntailor.blogspot.com/. They all start with the letter 'R' in the code, they all have 'plain' in the title, they're all pure cotton 2-ply, and cost $65-$75 -- much cheaper than ALL of their competitors.

So quit yer bitchin smile.gif
post #2584 of 3282
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As to the comments about MT's fabric selection: they have gone some way towards addressing the criticisms and have introduced new staple fabrics they are going to keep in stock. The new staple fabrics are detailed here: http://moderntailor.blogspot.com/. They all start with the letter 'R' in the code, they all have 'plain' in the title, they're all pure cotton 2-ply, and cost $65-$75 -- much cheaper than ALL of their competitors.
So quit yer bitchin smile.gif

Maybe I'm undervaluing the MTM part of the service since I don't really have trouble finding reasonably slim OTR shirts that fit me well enough, but for me there are too many (better, imo) substitutes available when you take a $75 fabric + $5 for MOP + $10 for shipping. If I were looking for a shirt in the $90-$110 range, I'd have plenty of great options. I'm looking at MT to fill the hole in the $50-65 range, though, which would mean $40-55 fabrics.

I think of myself as pretty rational, but it's possible that I'm just too cheap smile.gif
post #2585 of 3282
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Maybe I'm undervaluing the MTM part of the service since I don't really have trouble finding reasonably slim OTR shirts that fit me well enough, but for me there are too many (better, imo) substitutes available when you take a $75 fabric + $5 for MOP + $10 for shipping. If I were looking for a shirt in the $90-$110 range, I'd have plenty of great options. I'm looking at MT to fill the hole in the $50-65 range, though, which would mean $40-55 fabrics.
I think of myself as pretty rational, but it's possible that I'm just too cheap smile.gif

I thought the biggest value proposition of the entire business was getting a shirt pretty much custom tailored however you like? For you to discount that seems pretty insensible to me.

The fabric costs that you see on the website aren't just the fabric costs, they're the cost of the fabric and getting someone to custom make your shirt, as opposed to having to choose from S, M, L or XL.
post #2586 of 3282
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I thought the biggest value proposition of the entire business was getting a shirt pretty much custom tailored however you like? For you to discount that seems pretty insensible to me.
The fabric costs that you see on the website aren't just the fabric costs, they're the cost of the fabric and getting someone to custom make your shirt, as opposed to having to choose from S, M, L or XL.

Agreed. You get an MTM for the price of a RTW. That is a great deal, especially if you are a non-standard size. If an RTW brand fits you exactly and has all the options you want, then perhaps no need for MTM at all.

But I also agree that for me, being an easy fit, i would prefer to spend $80-150 per shirt on B&S and get great deals on Kiton, Borrelli, Charvet, Isaia, etc. I find their fabrics and construction superior and with better patterns.
post #2587 of 3282
Only problem is that you are only $30 away from the low end of fabric selection at CEGO.
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Only problem is that you are only $30 away from the low end of fabric selection at CEGO.

I don't think you're going to get much disagreement with the argument that a US-made MTM with actual fittings is better than Chinese internet MTM, but CEGO's shirts cost twice as much, and have a five shirt minimum for first time buyers, and a two shirt minimum for returning customers. Yup, that's a $500 committment for those wanting to give CEGO a try. Not exactly apples to apples.
post #2589 of 3282
I tried CEGO some years ago when they had the two shirt min for first time customers and I am rather sure Carl is about customer retention at the end of the day. I have tried the online services, but the difference generally isn't more then 40-50 bucks and I get to handle the fabric, which I consider very important. $140-160 is some solid material to be had at CEO and I can't say online MTM delivers much quality below $100. So actually not that far off.
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I don't think you're going to get much disagreement with the argument that a US-made MTM with actual fittings is better than Chinese internet MTM, but CEGO's shirts cost twice as much, and have a five shirt minimum for first time buyers, and a two shirt minimum for returning customers. Yup, that's a $500 committment for those wanting to give CEGO a try. Not exactly apples to apples.

If this is really Carl's policy, then he doesn't enforce it. I started with one shirt, and I introduced a couple of friends who also started with one shirt.
post #2591 of 3282

Hello Everyone!

Happy Chinese New Year :)

 

Just wanted to update you that we now have our Modern Tailor Spring Collection on the website... Available on this link http://moderntailor.com/mtcollection

 

There are 50 unique shirt designs... fabrics are available for 6 months. The swatch book is #117 http://moderntailor.com/fabricswatches

 

The shirts featured in the MT Collection have detailed description including pricing. You may:

1. You may customize the design a little bit - just log in on your Modern Tailor account and Click the button "Customize Order". The web interface will take you through the process as if you're designing a shirt but the design is pre-loaded. You can adjust the specs as you go through the process.

 

2. Order the exact design and just enter your measurement or choose your measurement profile.

 

Prices are from $64.95 to $74.95 excluding shipping :)

 

 

post #2592 of 3282
Leah,

Thank you for listening to our feedback and providing some great looking fabrics that will be kept in stock for a consistent period of time! I'll be placing an order soon.

By the way, will there be any delays with the production of orders due to the Chinese New Year?
post #2593 of 3282
will take a look when i get home ... was waiting to get some regular fabrics. hopefully they dont shrink, im having an issue wher im losing almost an 1" in all measurements!!
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will take a look when i get home ... was waiting to get some regular fabrics. hopefully they dont shrink, im having an issue wher im losing almost an 1" in all measurements!!

All cotton fabrics shrink, unless they've been mercerised.
post #2595 of 3282
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Originally Posted by nerdykarim View Post

Maybe I'm undervaluing the MTM part of the service since I don't really have trouble finding reasonably slim OTR shirts that fit me well enough, but for me there are too many (better, imo) substitutes available when you take a $75 fabric + $5 for MOP + $10 for shipping. If I were looking for a shirt in the $90-$110 range, I'd have plenty of great options. I'm looking at MT to fill the hole in the $50-65 range, though, which would mean $40-55 fabrics.
I think of myself as pretty rational, but it's possible that I'm just too cheap smile.gif

" I don't really have trouble finding reasonably slim OTR shirts that fit me well enough" is the very reason most people start using MTM services. OTR shirts may fit ok or even well, but when you see someone in a MTM shirt or better yet see a photo of yourself in an OTR shirt and a great fitting MTM shirt you quickly realize that OTR stuff doesn't actually fit you that well. If you are willing to spend $90 for an OTR shirt when you can get a MTM shirt for the same price, then by all means you have that choice, but no OTR shirt will fit like a MTM shirt, ever.

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Originally Posted by negusnegas View Post

Only problem is that you are only $30 away from the low end of fabric selection at CEGO.

ModernTailor is a price-point business. They offer lots of nicer expensive fabrics, but it seems that they focus on buying fabric bundles in the $50-$75 range so that customers can get truly MTM shirts for under $100. Adding $30 to the price of one shirt going somewhere else would defeat their purpose. I personally love that I can buy on-sale fabrics and get MTM shirts for around $60-$70 dollars. Less than 5% of people out there can tell the difference in a $50 per shirt fabric and the $150 per shirt fabric. Most people focus on the fit.
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Originally Posted by gladhands View Post

I don't think you're going to get much disagreement with the argument that a US-made MTM with actual fittings is better than Chinese internet MTM, but CEGO's shirts cost twice as much, and have a five shirt minimum for first time buyers, and a two shirt minimum for returning customers. Yup, that's a $500 committment for those wanting to give CEGO a try. Not exactly apples to apples.

+1 I tried a few online MTM outfits and stuck with MT because of the price. Some shirts from other companies were better constructed and their fabrics were better, but they cost a lot more as well. I'll take two or even three MT shirts over one CEGO, MyTailor, or another company that I can't even remember.
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