Originally Posted by VersaceMan
I'm not a religious person and tend to disagree somewhat with the way organized religion has become, but at times I am spiritual. Lately I've been thinking a lot more about religious and spiritual issues, but I just had a thought a second ago. What is the purpose of god? Why bother to create humans, put them through a test on earth, then send them to heaven or hell? What does god get from this? If heaven is eternal, what is god's role in heaven? Does he hang out with all the spirits there? If there is a god, perhaps we are entertainment of sorts for him. Maybe, since some believe that humans are created in his image, we share a bit of human nature with him - that is, the urge to show people beautiful things. If that were the case, maybe god just wanted to show us his masterpiece - the universe. Obviously nobody knows any of these answers, I just wanted to pose the question and get some discussion. Perhaps AlanC can chime in and give me a little perspective on it.
It sounds like your questions come from the point of view of Catholicism (whether you meant that or not) and your questions also indicate that you think God is separate from you. Furthermore (to me) your questions indicate that heaven is a separate place with a hierarchy. Personally (and currently - though my beliefs do change), I believe that “God” created us (and everything else) and is still a part of all that has been created. Us and our universe are not separate from God but a part of God. Humans have the ability (consciousness) to recognize the “God” part of themselves and still be in the physical world differentiating between the two (which is an interesting place to be as it gives humans choice / freewill). Dying is nothing more than leaving the physical body/vessel and becoming, fully once again, a part of the energy of the universe which is actually God him/her/itself. Not a person, but everything (so to speak). God knows what it is like to be human as “he” (I say this because I am a guy - no sexual bias intended) basically created the humanity / life we have today. He created the awareness of all of the things that “are”. In other words, the atoms/molecules/ building blocks of life have a predisposed direction they are supposed to head thus creating life as we know it today (bugs/rivers/air/humans). To have created something, one (God) must have had an idea in mind to begin with. As humans, we’ve been given the gift of being able to look at what was created and “see” it, really with God’s eyes (so to speak). But, along with this gift (awareness) comes choice. This is why, to me, there is no “heaven and hell”. It's just a symbolic construct to represent good and bad. There is just a returning to God, which isn’t somewhere “up there” in “heaven” but really just a part of the universe in a nonphysical form. I don’t see how anyone can “go anywhere” after they die, when we already have one foot in “heaven” and we are already attached to God? Faith: Faith to me is intrinsic and doesn’t depend on religion. Has anyone ever not had faith? Of course. Whether or not one believes in Jesus, Muhammed, Noah, or whoever, still can lose or gain faith. Most people have faith most of the time and for me, faith comes (if I lose it) from other people (who I believe are connected to me and God also) and brings me back to my connection with "God" (which I only lost because of... ugh, another subject I guess). We / planets / plants / bugs / oceans are all connected to God at all times therefore to regain faith with any of these things is possible.
Originally Posted by Oddly Familiar
I'm not trying to offend anyone, but maybe it is the other way around. Maybe humans created the concept of a supreme being to answer the unexplainable. Like why are we here and what is our role? The greeks created the myths to explain things that where otherwise unexplainable in their time.
This part of what you said is undeniably true. History clearly reflects humans beliefs about God and what God is as compared to their situations in time and place. This has been documented and discussed in several books I’ve read and is quite fascinating. I’m going to stop there as this is a huge topic with many sub topics and it’s time to go to bed.