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post #181 of 306
I think going the hotel route would probably be the best for my next trip to Japan. The best part about staying at hostels is meeting other people, IMO....but that was negated by the jet lag, which forced me into bed by 8 pm each night. As an item of interest...look at this if you happen to think Japanese girls are the hottest in asia. While I was there, it appeared that 30% of the "pretty" girls had adopted the lessons in the link.
post #182 of 306
FWIW, There aren't that many hotels in the "Harajuku area". I can't seem to find any nice ones for 5000 yen, as our very rude friend suggests are so prevalent. Maybe if you extend to include Sendagaya, Akasaka, Shinjuku, Higashi, etc. But that's not really the same area. I also lol @ the notion that Harajuku is within "walking distance" of 50% of what people coming to Japan want to see. Walking from the JR Takeshita exit at Yoyogi, up Omotesando, down Meiji-Dori to Shibuya Stn is about a 1.5 to 2 hour "tourist" walk on a nice day. It's roughly 2 miles with foot with vehicle traffic, intersections, blah blah blah. I think I did it in a hurry in about 50 min once. If you are walking along the Yamanote line from Harajuku to Shibuya, it's about a 30-45min walk. Now that's a nice walk on a good day, for sure - but that will give you an idea of scale. Most of what you want to do in Tokyo is not within walking distance, unless half of everything you want to do is in Shibuya or Shinjuku. Take the train.
post #183 of 306
I'm gonna save my cheap hotels around that area secret, and let Tokyo Slim teach you guys the best of Tokyo. lol My girlfriend (from Tokyo) has shown me several with nicer amenities than you can expect from a business hotel, for the 5000'ish yen I talked about. When I lived in Tokyo during my student years, I stayed in Ikejiri-Ohashi and near Shinjuku, both for under 5000Y/night, and facilities were good. The Ikejiri place had a private bathroom and was clean and maintained, and was convenient to many things. Both years were summer months, and I still walked a lot, and took the train pretty much only when I had to go out into Setagaya or go across town. Tokyo Slim, Shibuya to Harajuku station via Meiji Dori is 17 minutes on foot, 1.5km, according to Google maps, and that is far more realistic than 45 minutes. To give a better perspective; Google maps on my iPad says: Shibuya to Akasaka (which is a good distance, I would not walk this if I weren't interested in stopping to see shops) - 48 mins on foot Shibuya to Roppongi - 35 minutes on foot Shibuya to Shinjuku, via Meiji-dori - 46 minutes on foot Shibuya to Ebisu - 19 mins on foot Shibuya to Daikanyama - 16 mins on foot Shibuya to Nakameguro - 23 mins on foot Let's be realistic (and not butthurt here) and say that quite a number of things people will want to see in Tokyo are accessible on foot. Would I actually walk from Shibuya to Harajuku? of course. Would I walk from Shibuya to Akasaka or Shinjuku? no. Would I walk from Shibuya to Roppongi or Ebisu? maybe. You gotta factor in a platform wait, two turnstiles, and then a walk to and from wherever you're going from the stations, so walking is not a bad idea if you can muster the energy and want to see more. I don't stop into every shop I see, nor do I go back repeatedly everyday, so the idea that these walks would take you all day is ridiculous. Tokyo people will tell you that you can easily walk that area.
post #184 of 306
I think if the argument is for a ~Y5,000/night business hotels or ryokan located in & around Shibuya being perhaps a better deal for fashion-centric SF members than a backpacker hostel or ryokan up near Ueno or Asakusa, I would be inclined to agree. One challenge is that most business hotels in and around Shibuya, Harajuku etc are well above the Y5,000 mark. However, if willing to take go a bit further out toward Ohashi (as impolyt_one indicates), one might consider places like the Hotel Fukudaya which has rather spartan singles starting from Y5,250... At almost double that rate but with a lot more corresponding amenities is Hotel Excellent in Ebisu. And, yes - I know Ebisu is not Shibuya but it has a nice selection of restaurants, a decent vibe, plus a decent sports bar (Footnik), pub (What The Dickens), is on the Yamanote Line and is one stop from Shibuya. It also comes recommended in this NYT article Two Days in Tokyo, Stretching $500 Worth of Yen Oh yeah, and borrowing Tokyo Slim's excellent map, here is a brief outline of an afternoon I spent with American friends who were up for one day in Tokyo before flying up to Hokkaido for skiing end of last year (outlined in purple): We started at Harajuku Station just before noon, made a perfunctory visit to Meiji Shrine, looped back to Oshman's for some ski wear required for Hokkaido, then a walk down Takeshita Dori. Headed toward Omotesando and broke for lunch. One group wanted to do more shopping in Omotesando and the back streets like Cat's Alley, while I took the rest to Shibuya for some Christmas shopping. Tokyu Hands, a boutique t-shirt place, the Apple Store for a handful of iPods. Coffee at Starbucks to look at the scramble kosatten and for a weird reason, a sushi break consisting of only prime cuts of tuna (chu toro, toro etc). Back to the t-shirt shop and more walking around and then a taxi back to the Grand Hyatt in Roppongi Hills in time for drinks and dinner.
post #185 of 306
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Last I checked, it was closer to $900 for a midweek coach flight from Seattle.

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post #186 of 306
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If you or anyone else qualifies, do take advantage of this -
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what's the with the photocopied spam-type announcement? This is legit ?
post #187 of 306
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Originally Posted by impolyt_one View Post
I'm gonna save my cheap hotels around that area secret, and let Tokyo Slim teach you guys the best of Tokyo. lol
Yeah, because you are rude AND full of shit. Like I said, there aren't that many hotels in Harajuku to begin with.
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Tokyo Slim, Shibuya to Harajuku station via Meiji Dori is 17 minutes on foot, 1.5km, according to Google maps, and that is far more realistic than 45 minutes.
Right, because in Tokyo, you can walk a mile in 17 minutes, no problem. Disregarding the pedestrian footbridges, crosswalks, distractions, and other people maybe. Good thing there's none of that stuff. I'll time it for you in three weeks.
post #188 of 306
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We started at Harajuku Station just before noon, made a perfunctory visit to Meiji Shrine, looped back to Oshman's for some ski wear required for Hokkaido, then a walk down Takeshita Dori. Headed toward Omotesando and broke for lunch. One group wanted to do more shopping in Omotesando and the back streets like Cat's Alley, while I took the rest to Shibuya for some Christmas shopping. Tokyu Hands, a boutique t-shirt place, the Apple Store for a handful of iPods. Coffee at Starbucks to look at the scramble kosatten and for a weird reason, a sushi break consisting of only prime cuts of tuna (chu toro, toro etc). Back to the t-shirt shop and more walking around and then a taxi back to the Grand Hyatt in Roppongi Hills in time for drinks and dinner.

So... five hours? Sounds about right.

Butbutbut according to google maps your route is only about 4 km! I'll give you 4.5 with the shrine. You should have been able to walk that in 50 minutes!
post #189 of 306
The walks I took felt epic. Of course they were done leisurely and there were stops, but I walked from Yoyogi, down to Harajuku, through takeshita-dori, popped that right, then made that left up Ometesando. Walked back and forth the main road of Ometesando and made a right at the main intersection before the Prada store and walked to Aoyama. That shit took me at the very least 5 hours. *Forgive me for not remembering exact street names.
post #190 of 306
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Originally Posted by impolyt_one View Post
Let's be realistic (and not butthurt here)

Why change your tactics now?
You were doing so well!
post #191 of 306
LMAO dude, go eat another bowl of cheese brick and chili and get off my dick. What are you going to be telling your fellow travelers in the lounge of the New Koyo when they ask what you do? You can tell them "I argue with people on the internet full time on topics about Tokyo and chili con carne. I've actually got 18,865 posts dedicated to my life's work on styleforum, a forum dedicated to men's style and clothing."
post #192 of 306
okay guys,Impoyt and Slim I will buy you both a ticket to Tokyo,under one condition you both have to stay in the same hotel room (one bed) and work this out once and for all.
post #193 of 306
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LMAO
dude, go eat another bowl of cheese brick and chili and get off my dick.

What are you going to be telling your fellow travelers in the lounge of the New Koyo when they ask what you do? You can tell them "I argue with people on the internet full time on topics about Tokyo and chili con carne. I've actually got 18,865 posts dedicated to my life's work on styleforum, a forum dedicated to men's style and clothing."

Why don't you keep acting like a spoiled bitch who's only apparent purpose is to take cracks at people who have less supposed money than you? How about you point out how much money you are spending on dinner again, you pathetic piece of shit? Maybe you should pm J with your opinion of low class people like us. Im sure he'd love to know how much better than us you think you are. You sure do like telling me. Or maybe you can just go back to fucking yourself.


You sure do seem to like selling your fucking clothes here. Maybe if people knew what a huge douchebag asshole you apparently are, they'd stop buying shit from you. Hmm?
post #194 of 306
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okay guys,Impoyt and Slim I will buy you both a ticket to Tokyo,under one condition you both have to stay in the same hotel room (one bed) and work this out once and for all.
Please send your money to him. He needs it to prop up his ego, cause its all he's got going for him. I don't need it at all. My ego stands apart from my bank account.Real people are capable of showing their worth without bragging about how rich they are. That being said, I'm probably spending around $6500 on my trip this time around, so if being a complete and utter douchebag was my top priority, I could eat at Robuchon every night I'm in Tokyo. Look how much of a baller I am! I have more money and better taste than Impolyte! Temple of Jawns is fucking ugly, and it gives people AIDS! What do you think, was that a pretty good impression of you or what? What a prick.
post #195 of 306
lol. you are a small man, Tokyo Slim. That is all.
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