Originally Posted by GQgeek
damn. I was so ready to buy them too
Don't give up yet! My experience in researching Kiton shoes is that they may have a size stamped on them that is more
than one size smaller than the actual US size. I once almost bought a pair that were marked 8. After getting extensive measurements, inside and out, from the seller, I had to conclude that they would have been marked 9.5 US. Your best bet is to ask the seller for outside length of sole and width at widest part, and a careful measurement of the insole with a tape measure to the nearest 1/8". Then examine the toe taper to see whether there would be much empty space at the toe because of taper (as with the C&J 337 last). If, after this, they seem about right, make sure you have full return privileges (where you'd pay the return postage, of course).
As for the Weymouth, I'd try to figure out what size you are in US sizing, and then make a slightly greater adjustment than you would for most English shoes. For example, I'm a true 9.5 US. Most of my English shoes are 9 UK, but those with a long last and tapered toe are 8.5 UK (C&J 337 last, JLobb 7000 last). The ultimate test, of course, is trying them on, and if you buy your Weymouths from P. Lal, for example, I believe that you would be allowed full return privileges.Edit:
I just re-read the original question, and think that your assumption about Kiton sizing may be in the wrong direction. Kiton shoes are at least one size larger
in US sizing than what's stamped on them. Therefore, a Kiton shoe stamped 9 would, in all likelihood be equivalent to a US 10, at least, and, more likely, a 10.5, if my experience is any guide.