Thank you very much Kenneth. I went to Bennie's in Buckhead today to have a look at the Grensons. The 9.5Ds you mentioned were indeed beautiful shoes. The Oundle in brown, as DocHolliday says, has a very stunning antique patina. Unfortunately, the last those are made on was too narrow for me.
Just when I was starting to despair though, I saw a pair of black perforated captoes w/medallion in a wider, rounder toe last than the Oundle (rather like the EG 82 or 606 vs. the 888 for the Oundle). These were not marked Grensons but had the exact same sole with black in the middle and nail pattern, and insides as the Masterpieces. They were marked Ducker and Sons, Oxford and the salesperson confirmed me they were Grensons. They were stamped imperfect and the only defect I could notice was the medallion on the left shoe was slightly off-center. Also, the tongue on one side was stitched to the upper. (I'll try post pics when I get home later this week). Best of all, they fit me great and they were marked $150, less 10% = $135!!
I bought them, with woodlore cedar trees ($15.95) and also bought a pair of tobacco brown Magnanni wingtip bals. Even though they're no Grensons, since I wanted brown shoes, I bought them too.
So thank you for the tip Ken. This is my first pair of welted English shoes. I mentioned your SF post to Louie who said he would thank you for the plug. The J&M handmades are really magnificent shoes as you say. The brogues have that extended sole on the sides (I forget the technical term for that) but there were only small sizes. Some great choices for sizes 6-7 as you say. Even more Masterpieces and some that looked like EGs with the same Made in England in script marking.