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post #736 of 2127

Horse tranquilizer maybe? I forgot that he was a vet.

 

The point of that episode was to bring to head the differences between the two leaders. That conversation and that conflict could have happened at the farm (throw in a random zombie for action) as the kid recuperated or better yet was kept under by Herschel. Let's say Rick wins and they decide to let him go. They bring him to and as they load hm into the car he sees Maggie. "Hello, Maggie."

 

That puts the same spin on the ep but brings everyone in: we can't let him go vs. we can't take care of him.  Why the hell didn't the kid mention Maggie before? Use every advantage he had to stay at the farm? 

 

That episode was filler.

 

lefty

post #737 of 2127
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What was with that lone zombie/person walking in the field that Shane saw?

I think the cops w/ no marks was to introduce the idea that there might be other means of infection and when Rick was thinking about leaving he saw the two of them there, in uniform, and was reminded of his and Shane's history/relationship/brotherhood of the cop.

I think the walker was party an indication that Shane is walking alone but also becoming more and more like a walker, willing to kill for no reason, loosing his humanity. In the scene with the fight between Rick and Shane right after Shane throws the wrench we catch a reflection of Shane in the broken glass and he looks like a walker. In fact I thought it was a walker for a sec. right before the actual walker broke through. Shane is totally losing his shit.

Re the standard Rick v. Shane argument, Tori (? Ricks wife) actually had it right. It takes a lot of people to survive and the secondary jobs are just as important as swinging your dick around killing things. You've still got to eat, bathe, collect fuel, maintain shelter and warmth, and so on. Having people to help is important in the best of times, in a world filled with millions of walking dead it would be crucial to have a group working together. Shane's way would totally destroy any group and leave him fighting alone. It might work for a while but then some walker would get him while he takes a shit, or cuts wood, or is under a car trying to get oil or a spare part.
post #738 of 2127
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The hand cutting.

Ever slice your palm? It hurts like hell and it takes a long time to heal as you are forever opening and closing your hand. But here we have Rick casually cutting his palm to attract zombies. Then Shane does it after jamming his knife into a zombie's head. 

Perhaps people heal quickly here as the kid seems to hobble pretty well for having a fence post ripped through his leg not too long ago.

lefty

Yes, more stupid writing. And why does no one have a fucking spear yet? Best Zombie slaying weapon this side of the tomahawk. No need to get in close at all and it's nicely silent. In fact, why not get Roman on them and have a spear to throw, stick it into them and slow them down, and then finish them with a sword or axe.
Or a battle mobile. Get a truck with a rack, weld on some thick chain link fence type siding onto the sides and top, some over all the windows and use a spear to stick any zombie through the fence.

Or a fucking silencer on a .22 pistol.
Or any body armor, even a leather jacket and a football helmet.
Or a riot shield.
Arrgggg.

The movie Stake Land actually did this genre fairly well. Low budget but much better writing.
post #739 of 2127
^ good point... i'm surprised no one has welded any type of grate/siding on windows on their vehicles... would solve a lot of problems with zombies breaking through windows/etc.
post #740 of 2127
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^ good point... i'm surprised no one has welded any type of grate/siding on windows on their vehicles... would solve a lot of problems with zombies breaking through windows/etc.

Hyundai would never allow it. bored.gif
post #741 of 2127

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Yes, more stupid writing. And why does no one have a fucking spear yet? Best Zombie slaying weapon this side of the tomahawk. No need to get in close at all and it's nicely silent. In fact, why not get Roman on them and have a spear to throw, stick it into them and slow them down, and then finish them with a sword or axe.
Or a battle mobile. Get a truck with a rack, weld on some thick chain link fence type siding onto the sides and top, some over all the windows and use a spear to stick any zombie through the fence.
Or a fucking silencer on a .22 pistol.
Or any body armor, even a leather jacket and a football helmet.
Or a riot shield.
Arrgggg.
The movie Stake Land actually did this genre fairly well. Low budget but much better writing.

 

When the food riots finally happen in SF I want you on my side.

 

lefty
 

 

post #742 of 2127


this was explained in the spoiler two pages back,i suggest you dont look at it and let it be a surprise.i did and regret it.although what i know know i wouldnt have figured out since i havent read the books.i know i made you curious but dont look at it devil.gif   

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I think the cops w/ no marks was to introduce the idea that there might be other means of infection and when Rick was thinking about leaving he saw the two of them there, in uniform, and was reminded of his and Shane's history/relationship/brotherhood of the cop.
I think the walker was party an indication that Shane is walking alone but also becoming more and more like a walker, willing to kill for no reason, loosing his humanity. In the scene with the fight between Rick and Shane right after Shane throws the wrench we catch a reflection of Shane in the broken glass and he looks like a walker. In fact I thought it was a walker for a sec. right before the actual walker broke through. Shane is totally losing his shit.
Re the standard Rick v. Shane argument, Tori (? Ricks wife) actually had it right. It takes a lot of people to survive and the secondary jobs are just as important as swinging your dick around killing things. You've still got to eat, bathe, collect fuel, maintain shelter and warmth, and so on. Having people to help is important in the best of times, in a world filled with millions of walking dead it would be crucial to have a group working together. Shane's way would totally destroy any group and leave him fighting alone. It might work for a while but then some walker would get him while he takes a shit, or cuts wood, or is under a car trying to get oil or a spare part.


 

post #743 of 2127
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this was explained in the spoiler two pages back,i suggest you dont look at it and let it be a surprise.i did and regret it.although what i know know i wouldnt have figured out since i havent read the books.i know i made you curious but dont look at it devil.gif    



i haven't read the comics either and read the spoiler. i do not regret it at all; i don't think it's a major spoiler, TBH.
post #744 of 2127

really,i thought it was huge...oh well 

post #745 of 2127
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Yes, more stupid writing. And why does no one have a fucking spear yet? Best Zombie slaying weapon this side of the tomahawk. No need to get in close at all and it's nicely silent. In fact, why not get Roman on them and have a spear to throw, stick it into them and slow them down, and then finish them with a sword or axe.
Or a battle mobile. Get a truck with a rack, weld on some thick chain link fence type siding onto the sides and top, some over all the windows and use a spear to stick any zombie through the fence.
Or a fucking silencer on a .22 pistol.
Or any body armor, even a leather jacket and a football helmet.
Or a riot shield.
Arrgggg.
The movie Stake Land actually did this genre fairly well. Low budget but much better writing.


 

The redneck had a crossbow. That was the best way to kill walkers. Silent, easy to shoot and pretty much as effective as a gun.

 

With all this talk of shane´s resemblance to the walkers, could it be possible to see him as one??

 

Also

 

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

He´s supposed to die pretty soon in the comics, right? Maybe he´ll come back as a zombie.

 

post #746 of 2127
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The redneck had a crossbow. That was the best way to kill walkers. Silent, easy to shoot and pretty much as effective as a gun.

 

With all this talk of shane´s resemblance to the walkers, could it be possible to see him as one??

 

Also

 

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

He´s supposed to die pretty soon in the comics, right? Maybe he´ll come back as a zombie.

 



since it didnt happen in the show im not spoiling it for anyone,in the comic Shane dies in the woods when he points the shotgun at rick when looking for Sophia,and Carl shoots him.in the show dale sees it,in the comic carl does. 

post #747 of 2127
Ha, this show isn't good enough to worry about spoilers. If it was GoT I'd flip my shit.
post #748 of 2127
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Ha, this show isn't good enough to worry about spoilers. If it was GoT I'd flip my shit.

Well the source material was damned good. Although the first season had a lot of differences from it, the overall flow of the story was about the same.

I hope they go back to the pacing of the first season. All the dumb ass decisions would be less annoying if the story didn't stall so much.
post #749 of 2127


i dont think they will.i think they are going to treat it as seasons.so for example the farm was an entire season,prison will be another entire season and the governor another season etc.so they have to fill it out and stretch things out and the pacing and flow suffers.less talking more zombie killing please...

ers  

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Well the source material was damned good. Although the first season had a lot of differences from it, the overall flow of the story was about the same.
I hope they go back to the pacing of the first season. All the dumb ass decisions would be less annoying if the story didn't stall so much.


 

post #750 of 2127
I think you are right Valium. IMO the second half of the second season is shaping up to be pretty damn good though.

I mean come on people...it's a show about zombies and you're nitpicking shit like a Star Trek nerd.

I MEAN HAVEN'T YOU HEARD OF SUSPENSION OF DISBELIEF!!!????

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