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post #286 of 317
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Originally Posted by javyn View Post
Yeah we have the "OMG THE PC IS DEAD LONG LIVE THE IPHONE" crowd to thank for that.

It's funny, been at this job 5 years now and I've had my computer replaced 3 times...but I'm still running Windows XP and Office 2000 b/c it is too costly to upgrade the OS and software.

wow that sucks, windows 7 is pretty stable and the current office is stable, it will save so many headaches in the future to upgrade and spend a little, i hate it when IT budget is kept low, bad decisions get made that way because of money
post #287 of 317
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Originally Posted by sinnedk View Post
wow that sucks, windows 7 is pretty stable and the current office is stable, it will save so many headaches in the future to upgrade and spend a little, i hate it when IT budget is kept low, bad decisions get made that way because of money
Not going to go into detail because I'm not into bitching about work, but, it's not an issue of not enough money, it's an issue of the money not being properly applied. Hell, I'm not even thinking about Win7 now, but a law firm running Office 2000 is nuts! And yeah, the headaches have already started.
post #288 of 317
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Originally Posted by javyn View Post
Not going to go into detail because I'm not into bitching about work, but, it's not an issue of not enough money, it's an issue of the money not being properly applied.

Hell, I'm not even thinking about Win7 now, but a law firm running Office 2000 is nuts!

And yeah, the headaches have already started.

its common, lots of places allocate money into other areas when there is an easy on to fix
post #289 of 317
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Wow that mobo is a BEAST

Beats the shit out of my Gigabyte 770TA, which I still love.

I didn't know anything about mobos, but when I bought my CPU (i2500K) and VGAs, I figured I need a powerful and stable mobo that can handle the load. Decided to go with the Asus version of P67 because I read really good reviews about it.

Running SLI on this thing is like a breeze.
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post #291 of 317
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Hell, I'm not even thinking about Win7 now, but a law firm running Office 2000 is nuts!


Law firms have generally been behind the curve. In 1995 I was working at a law firm that didn't have PCs ... they had DEC VT100 terminals on our desks.
post #292 of 317
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Originally Posted by Ace Rimmer View Post
Law firms have generally been behind the curve. In 1995 I was working at a law firm that didn't have PCs ... they had DEC VT100 terminals on our desks.
That may be, but it's pretty embarrassing when I hear associates on the phone with opposing counsel asking them to resend redlined drafts b/c they can't open the DocX. I've only sent like 12 firm-wide emails with a link to the Microsoft Office converter....*sigh Anyway, Office 2k and WordPerfect 9 rule the day here heheh. Hell our docketing and billing software looks DOS based
post #293 of 317
Happy to hear you got it all figured out Prada.
post #294 of 317
Just ordered the pieces for a new XBMC based HTPC to replace my Acer Revo nettop that was damaged when my apartment flooded a few months ago (this will eliminate the last remnant of that whole ordeal).


Decided to build it from scratch since I ended up using my HTPC more than my desktop (which was basically only being used for working with my photos and remote desktoping to the office...and for storing all the games that I don't play anymore), the Atom cpus with ION are great HTPCs but they are a little anemic for other things. Now I should be able to play everything (including netflix/amazon) as well as some emulated games and PC-rock band/DDR.


Went with:
-AMD A6-3500 apu--These have pretty nice integrated graphics that can even be run SLI with another ati card. I wanted the quad-core 3600 version but nobody reputable seems to sell them and the one shady site I found with them in stock was too expensive and had errors in the item listing that made me think it wasn't even an A6-3600.
-ASRock A75 motherboard.
-4GB stick of ram
-32gb patriot torqx2 SSD--for speedy, silent, low-heat system drive
-Silverstone ML03b case to blend in with my other home theater stuff.
-Seasonic 350w PSU--big quiet 120mm fan and Active PFC...pricey as far as 350W PSUs go but should be rock solid and quiet. Also, it is a little shorter than most PSUs so it fits better in the case with an optical drive.

No optical drive for now--the Revo didn't have one and I never missed it. I'm going Win7 so I can do netflix/amazon (my old XBMC setup was linux which I loved...but I want streaming) which means I can add a blu-ray player if I ever see a good deal on one or someone gives me a blu-ray movie.
Bulk data is going to be stored on the leftover 500gb drive from my Revo--the floods in thailand have more than doubled the price of HDD storage and since I usually delete things after watching...I can wait until prices fall before buying some monster drive.

For a little over $300 (under without the SSD) it should be a pretty sweet system...the reviews on the AMD APUs are pretty awesome.
post #295 of 317
Thoughts:

1. Are you going to get compliant HDMI out?
2. Silverlight is being deprecated. Please rejoice.
3. Optical drives, Bluray drives, etc. are great to have in MPCs. Can pop in a DVD, easily skip all the menu bullshit, can rip said media to your machine...
post #296 of 317
Sounds like a good plan OTC.

If you don't plan on doing much gaming, you likely won't need a discrete card (would have to be a low-pro to fit that case anyways). The APU should handle everything else with ease.

I need to get around to upgrading my rig. Going to do a 2500k, 8gb 1866 DDR3, mid-range Z68 mobo, and likely a single HD 6950 2gb Flex for now. Will be playing BF3, Arkham City (my bro was playing it over Thanksgiving break, looks great) and Skyrim. I've been out of the loop a bit though, any word on next gen AMD and Nvidia graphics cards? Current gen has been out for a while with very little price drop... Ram is DIRT cheap right now.
post #297 of 317
I should have no issues with hdmi out from that setup--the AMD groups are practically designed for it (and I waited to see reviews/setup-guides over on the xbmc forums where they have sorted out all the overscan and resolution issues)

I'll get an optical drive eventually...but blu-ray desktop drives are still pretty expensive for what they are...I hope they fall sometime soon, maybe after christmas (it really didn't take long for dual-layer DVD burners to be readily available on sale for $20 or so)

As for gaming...honestly, the HD6530 in the A6 apus will probably perform better than whatever is in my desktop (E6750 with an X1950Pro) and my desktop is serviceable for the games I play. When Diablo 3 comes out, I may consider more ram (DDR2 800 frown.gif ) and upgrading the video card--maybe even push the CPU except I don't think you can do much better than the E6750 on an LGA775 motherboard (maybe some Pentium D stuff).
I just don't play games anymore...so other than some stuff I am looking forward to, I see no reason to upgrade what is currently a pretty solid box despite its age.
post #298 of 317
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Originally Posted by otc View Post

I should have no issues with hdmi out from that setup--the AMD groups are practically designed for it (and I waited to see reviews/setup-guides over on the xbmc forums where they have sorted out all the overscan and resolution issues)
I'll get an optical drive eventually...but blu-ray desktop drives are still pretty expensive for what they are...I hope they fall sometime soon, maybe after christmas (it really didn't take long for dual-layer DVD burners to be readily available on sale for $20 or so)
As for gaming...honestly, the HD6530 in the A6 apus will probably perform better than whatever is in my desktop (E6750 with an X1950Pro) and my desktop is serviceable for the games I play. When Diablo 3 comes out, I may consider more ram (DDR2 800 frown.gif ) and upgrading the video card--maybe even push the CPU except I don't think you can do much better than the E6750 on an LGA775 motherboard (maybe some Pentium D stuff).
I just don't play games anymore...so other than some stuff I am looking forward to, I see no reason to upgrade what is currently a pretty solid box despite its age.

Pentium D is a huge step back from an e6750. You need to move up to a q9550 or equivalent as an upgrade on the LGA 775 socket path. Not cheap though. I sold one for $225 on CL a few months back since the e6850 I'm using is more than enough for the light CS:S gaming and web browsing I do right now. DDR2 800 isn't too bad, you can get used sticks for cheap. Diablo 3 will likely require more GPU power vs CPU anyways so your money is best spent on something like an HD 6870 for $160 or so, which can then transfer into an upgraded box should the time come with Intel Ivy Bridge and the 2nd gen octo AMD chips (hopefully rectifies the tragedy that was Bulldozer).
post #299 of 317
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Originally Posted by whiteslashasian View Post

Pentium D is a huge step back from an e6750. You need to move up to a q9550 or equivalent as an upgrade on the LGA 775 socket path. Not cheap though. I sold one for $225 on CL a few months back since the e6850 I'm using is more than enough for the light CS:S gaming and web browsing I do right now. DDR2 800 isn't too bad, you can get used sticks for cheap. Diablo 3 will likely require more GPU power vs CPU anyways so your money is best spent on something like an HD 6870 for $160 or so, which can then transfer into an upgraded box should the time come with Intel Ivy Bridge and the 2nd gen octo AMD chips (hopefully rectifies the tragedy that was Bulldozer).

OT: Bulldozer was a failure in that AMD was optimistic about the Windows scheduler. They are not compatible at all. Hardware architecture wise, it's pretty sound.
post #300 of 317
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Originally Posted by deadly7 View Post

OT: Bulldozer was a failure in that AMD was optimistic about the Windows scheduler. They are not compatible at all. Hardware architecture wise, it's pretty sound.

Yes, you think they would have figured that out before hand though... They say W8 is more friendly, but still isn't a complete solution either from what I gather.
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