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post #196 of 320
Hey guys, just wondering if anyone knowledgeable could check this build before I go ahead with it. It's nothing too flash, pretty much just want a slightly high end computer to play games on that will hopefully last me around 3 or so years before it needs an upgrade. CPU: Intel Core i5-760 MB: ASUS P7P55D-LE Intel P55/LGA1156 Sound: Turtle Beach Santa Cruz PSU: Antec TruePower New Series 750W - blue Video: 2x HIS ATI Radeon HD 5750 Ram: G.skill Ripjaws 4GB HD: Seagate Barracuda 500GB Case: Antec Sonata II (using from prev. computer) Thanks!
post #197 of 320
Looks good. I have the same power supply and it is awesome. Any particular reason you're not using the onboard soundcard? You might also want a 1TB harddrive considering how cheap storage is today.
post #198 of 320
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Originally Posted by daft View Post
Looks good. I have the same power supply and it is awesome. Any particular reason you're not using the onboard soundcard? You might also want a 1TB harddrive considering how cheap storage is today.

+1

Samsung F3 1tb can be had for pretty cheap and apparently is a great performer.

Onboard sound should be fine, just use that for a while and make a decision on whether or not to get a seperate sound card after.

Also, that mobo, while having multiple PCI-X 2.0 x16 slots only supports x4 on the second slot if using multiple v-cards for xfire. HUGE performance hit. Just get a single GTX 460 for around $200 after rebates.
post #199 of 320
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Originally Posted by whiteslashasian View Post
Also, that mobo, while having multiple PCI-X 2.0 x16 slots only supports x4 on the second slot if using multiple v-cards for xfire. HUGE performance hit. Just get a single GTX 460 for around $200 after rebates.

Agree, if XenoX wants to play games "for the next three years" the better option is to spend the cash on a single more powerful video card and then SLI/Crossfire it in two years to keep the system current. Buying two cards now just takes up two PCI-E slots and inhibits further upgrades in the future.

My favorite bang for the buck video card is currently the Radeon HD5770 but YMMV.
post #200 of 320
Re: onboard sound I have these overly expensive Beyerdynamics and an overly expensive Pico amp that would be bottlenecked by it, so the extra $20 is worth it for me. Thanks for the tip on the hard drive though, looks like I can pay $30 more and get double the storage, sounds good! Oh and thanks for letting me know about the mobo, I see that you're right. But I'd like the option to do SLI or Crossfire in the future, so I might consider the GTX 460 but I will want a different motherboard regardless. What do you recommend for around the same price as the P7P55D? All I would need is 2 PCI-e x8 minimum, 2 PCI-e for future potential TV-tuner & wireless card, and 1 PCI for sound card (a spare PCI would be nice but I'm not fussed) and of course reasonable performance like the P7P55D.
post #201 of 320
Well it urns out I was confusing the P7P55D-LE with the P7P55D and P7P55D PRO, with only the latter two providing 8x/8x SLI or Crossfire, oops! Anyway thanks to the input I received, I've since done some research and taken on board what people said, and have revised the build to come up with this. CPU: Intel Core i5-760 MB: Asus P7P55D PRO Sound: Turtle Beach Santa Cruz PSU: Antec TruePower New Series 750W - blue led Video: MSI GeForce GTX 460 Cyclone 1GB Overclocked Ram: G.skill Ripjaws 4GB DDR3 1333Mhz (2x2G) F3-10666CL9D-4GBRL HD: Samsung F3 1 TB Will post when I finally get it built /w benchmarks and total cost for anyone in a similar position. Though finally would like to ask if anyone can see any room for improvement or issues with the build as before, just in case I missed something or there's an issue with the revised choice of parts. Thanks again.
post #202 of 320
Someone can recommend me a passive agp graphic card for my media center pc? should not need a lot of power because its gonna run 24/7.
post #203 of 320
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Originally Posted by XenoX101 View Post

Will post when I finally get it built /w benchmarks and total cost for anyone in a similar position.

yes please do. I'm gonna have a go at building a PC in February, so i'll be following this thread with interest. Probably around the same specs as yours. maybe the i7 will be cheaper by then
post #204 of 320
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Originally Posted by hendrix View Post
yes please do. I'm gonna have a go at building a PC in February, so i'll be following this thread with interest. Probably around the same specs as yours. maybe the i7 will be cheaper by then

Micro Center has i7-930 for ~$199 right now. By far the cheapest you'll find anywhere.

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Originally Posted by XenoX101 View Post
Well it urns out I was confusing the P7P55D-LE with the P7P55D and P7P55D PRO, with only the latter two providing 8x/8x SLI or Crossfire, oops!

Anyway thanks to the input I received, I've since done some research and taken on board what people said, and have revised the build to come up with this.

CPU: Intel Core i5-760
MB: Asus P7P55D PRO
Sound: Turtle Beach Santa Cruz
PSU: Antec TruePower New Series 750W - blue led
Video: MSI GeForce GTX 460 Cyclone 1GB Overclocked
Ram: G.skill Ripjaws 4GB DDR3 1333Mhz (2x2G) F3-10666CL9D-4GBRL
HD: Samsung F3 1 TB

Will post when I finally get it built /w benchmarks and total cost for anyone in a similar position. Though finally would like to ask if anyone can see any room for improvement or issues with the build as before, just in case I missed something or there's an issue with the revised choice of parts.

Thanks again.

I think that's a good build. Very versatile mobo supporting CF and SLI, modular PSU, can OC the crap outta that 760, and everything else looks good.

The only thing that worries me is heat. The 460 doesn't seem to exhaust the hot air directly out the rear. Hope you case can handle getting rid of the hot air without getting the rest of your components too warm. Also, do you plan on using the stock intel Heatsink-Fan? I'd suggest upgrading to a tower style and point it to exhause out the rear of the case.
post #205 of 320
Hm, interesting, thanks! I'll have to look into that. I guess I foolishly assumed a pre-OCed 460 would have any heat issues in check and that the cpu's heatsink ought to suffice for the non-enthusiast. I'll have a look some heatsinks and fans and do some more research, do you have any recommendations on cooling systems? Not looking to pay too much more though.
post #206 of 320
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Originally Posted by XenoX101 View Post
Hm, interesting, thanks! I'll have to look into that. I guess I foolishly assumed a pre-OCed 460 would have any heat issues in check and that the cpu's heatsink ought to suffice for the non-enthusiast. I'll have a look some heatsinks and fans and do some more research, do you have any recommendations on cooling systems? Not looking to pay too much more though.

As long as your case has some intake fans and exhaust fans you'll be fine. However it is better to have positive air pressure; generally meaning more intake then exhaust.

The video card should be ok in that case. However I don't like the stock CPU coolers as they tend to just shuffle the air around all over. A tower cooler like this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835103065 will allow you to direct the hot air to the rear of the case (where you hopefully have a 120mm or somesuch exhaust fan). This cooler should be a fine match for the 760.
post #207 of 320
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Originally Posted by whiteslashasian View Post
Micro Center has i7-930 for ~$199 right now. By far the cheapest you'll find anywhere.

Agreed. if you have a MicroCenter near you it's the best deal going. I am lucky because I have one 30 mins away by car.

Rumor has it that Intel will slash pricing on the Core i7 950 to $289 in late 2010. If it happens that will effectively make the 930 (and the 920) obsolete.

Did anyone get this month's Maximum PC and see the LGA2011 socket as one of their "top 10 things to watch for in 2011"? Gah, I hope the LGA1366 lasts for at least one more year!!!
post #208 of 320
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Originally Posted by Ace Rimmer View Post
Agreed. if you have a MicroCenter near you it's the best deal going. I am lucky because I have one 30 mins away by car.

Rumor has it that Intel will slash pricing on the Core i7 950 to $289 in late 2010. If it happens that will effectively make the 930 (and the 920) obsolete.

Did anyone get this month's Maximum PC and see the LGA2011 socket as one of their "top 10 things to watch for in 2011"? Gah, I hope the LGA1366 lasts for at least one more year!!!

All the socket changes make it tough to be a budget minded intel fan. 775 was great but 3 sockets in 3 years?

AMD played it VERY smart with their AM2+ into AM3 socket progression. The versatility of allowing users to keep their existing mobos and ram while upgrading their processor is a very nice draw. AMD's next generation of chips, Bulldozer, will run on AM3 as well (though it will not be compatible with the AM2+ DDR2 mobos).
post #209 of 320
I'm thinking about building a HTPC instead of a NMT now ... there's a Radeon 5770 available without a fan! Pair this up with a cool-running CPU and this would be one silent HTPC!

Link

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The problem with most passively cooled videocards is they typically bring weaksauce gaming performance into your home theater, as if all you'll ever want to do on your swank 52-inch LCD is watch movies and play the occasional round of Peggle. That's why we're stoked to see Gigabyte release a totally silent Radeon HD 5770, so far the only 5770 on the planet to ship without a fan.

Keep in mind we don't have one of these in for testing, but we have spent time with AMD's 5770 model and liked what we saw. Gigabyte's latest version -- GV-R577SL-1GD -- trades in the stock cooler for a passively cooled heatsink with four heat pipes running through a whole bunch of aluminum fins. Underneath it all sits an "ultra-huge" copper base plate.

Gigabyte seems to think it's all pretty effective, claiming a decrease in temps of 5-10 percent over traditional designs. We're skeptical those figures will hold up in the real-world compared to actively-cooled cards, but hey, as long as the card doesn't fry itself or burst into flames and take our home theater down, we could care less where it ranks.

No word on when this one's shipping or for how much

Hell with a 5770 you could keep current with PC games for at least the next year as well as using the HTPC for movie duty.
post #210 of 320
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Originally Posted by Ace Rimmer View Post
I'm thinking about building a HTPC instead of a NMT now ... there's a Radeon 5770 available without a fan! Pair this up with a cool-running CPU and this would be one silent HTPC!

Link


Hell with a 5770 you could keep current with PC games for at least the next year as well as using the HTPC for movie duty.

Gigabyte was always on top of the passive cooled video cards. I remember 5 years ago when my roommate got the passively cooled Gigabyte X800xl.

Wow does that 5770 have a massive cooler on it. Doesn't look like it would be able to fit most HTPC cases! Personally I'd just get IceQ HIS 5770. It has the direct exhaust to get the heat out right away and they are usually pretty quiet; it would only get loud during gaming and at that point you have explosions and shit going off.
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