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post #16 of 42
Samuelsohn makes Paul Stuarts tailored clothing if I am not mistaken. You could have a Samuelsohn jacket made up MTM to your own specifications in the 900-1000 range.
post #17 of 42
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Originally Posted by nytek View Post
So I'm sensing conflicting opinions out there? In regards to the budget, I (like everyone) don't have an unlimited budget but I can definitely afford to spend a $1K. However, I wanted to see if it's more reasonable to spend that amount on a nice Edward Green shoe or an "odd-jacket" like this.

For those of you who think I can get something at something around $500, do you have some recommendations for where I could find something in a trim fit in 36R in a RTW. The few guys with the same size as me on this thread can vouch for how difficult it is to find anything in your size OTR. Both the blazer that I have in navy and charcoal - I paid full retail for because it was impossible to find anywhere.

So for sportcoats with a slimmer fit in 36R in NYC - any recommendations?


Regardless of how many shoes you have, $900 would be better spent on shoes (Edward Green, Lobb, Vass, etc.) than the SC you are considering.

However, if money is no consideration,I would keep the SC as it looks good.
post #18 of 42
Looks very good. And good price as well!
post #19 of 42
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by bmf895 View Post
Samuelsohn makes Paul Stuarts tailored clothing if I am not mistaken. You could have a Samuelsohn jacket made up MTM to your own specifications in the 900-1000 range.

Any ideas on where I can get this done? I went to their website and Samuelsohn does not have any stores in Manhattan. Is there a website that could provide the service or would I have to go to the suburbs to get this done?
post #20 of 42
FWIW I think the jacket looks GREAT! Some will say its too tight, and has too strong shoulders, but thats what PC is all about (I also believe PC is Made in Italy not by Samuelson who does the reg PS line).

Here's the thing, regardless of price, its not exactly what you want. You said it yourself that you're not sure about the style for the jacket. It could cost $5, if you're not sure on the style, you're not gonna like it. I do like it, and think it looks good on you, and the PC line is designed for folks around your age (20's 30's). I think you may just have to suck it up and either pay full retail for exactly what you want, or go the custom route.
post #21 of 42
At a 36R, you need strong shoulders. Where do you plan on wearing it? If you are going 27 year old casual, fit doesn't necessarily need to be bespoke ideal.
post #22 of 42
I'd get some nice shoes instead. You can probably even get both the shoes and a summer jacket for your budget if you hunt around a bit. Maybe not EG, but still. Also, I think that jacket looks too tight fwiw.
post #23 of 42
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Originally Posted by Master-Classter View Post
like could you even close the bottom button if you wanted?

post #24 of 42
Personally, I like it. I don't think the fit is off, or the fabric is run of the mill. I bet it looks great in person.

Also, you are a 36R. You can use a little structure in the shoulder since you are a relatively small guy to begin with.

Mike
post #25 of 42
Thread Starter 
Regarding the price and me wanting it - it's just a matter of tradeoffs. I don't think I'll use it very often right now, but I'm looking at it as more of long-term investment in my wardrobe to expand my collection of sportcoats. I currently have a pretty solid shoe collection that includes a few C&Js, Grenson, AE, Ferragamo, Loake but pondering adding an EG to the collection, which it seems like from most of the posts would be a better investment. As for all the debate on the strong shoulders, as a 36R, I do generally prefer stronger shoulders, which is why I have a few RLBL jackets and suits. The only reason I brought it up as a concern in this case, which one of the posters mentioned as well, is that the strong shoulders seem a bit incongruous with the style of the jacket. It works better with my suits in charcoal and navy vs. a lighter colored jacket.
post #26 of 42
Thread Starter 
Also for those that mentioned it's not a great value at $950, can you suggest any alternatives that I may be able to find in a 36R with a good fit. Thanks.
post #27 of 42
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Originally Posted by bmf895 View Post
Samuelsohn makes Paul Stuarts tailored clothing if I am not mistaken. You could have a Samuelsohn jacket made up MTM to your own specifications in the 900-1000 range.
Is this true?
post #28 of 42
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Originally Posted by Cant kill da Rooster View Post
Is this true?

http://www.styleforum.net/showthread.php?t=6667

And FWIW, my local tailor says that Samuelsohn makes suits for Paul Stuart. But he also was trying to sell me a MTM Samuelsohn, so take his statement at face value. If you'd really like to know, just ask a SA at the Paul Stuart store. Ultimately, the question you have to ask yourself is if you want to pay extra for a particular designer's design. If their aesthetic appeals to you, by all means buy it. But if you know exactly what you want and can convey that to the person taking your measurements, skip the middleman, save on the designer's markup, and go directly to the manufacturer.
post #29 of 42
If you like the pattern/color, then it's not a bad jacket; it fits well. However, I wouldn't pay $900 for it.
post #30 of 42
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Originally Posted by nytek View Post
. I currently have a pretty solid shoe collection that includes a few C&Js, Grenson, AE, Ferragamo, Loake but pondering adding an EG to the collection, which it seems like from most of the posts would be a better investment.
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You are going to be very very disappointed after spending $900 on a pair of Edward Green given what you have already.

Edward Green shoes are not some magical beans that all magically transform your notions of what shoes should be.

I am not saying that EG are not nice. But going in with that kind of expectations will leave you much dissapointed.
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