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I am looking for late-20th century stuff that falls into the "moving sound mass category" -- the most famous and obvious example of which would be ligetti's lux aeterna.
what i do want is textural complexity and a fair amount of atonality / dissonance, while being somewhat contemplative. doesn't matter if vocal or instrumental.
what i don't want is lots of shrieky brass-heavy tone clusters or thin, monophonic drones, which some experimental minimalists have done.
Karlheinz Stockhausen's "Unsichtbare Choere" might be interesting. It's very slow-moving and quite dense. It's definitely contemplative. It's a lot "heavier" than Ligeti's "Lux Aeterna," if that makes sense.
I am looking for late-20th century stuff that falls into the "moving sound mass category" -- the most famous and obvious example of which would be ligetti's lux aeterna.
what i do want is textural complexity and a fair amount of atonality / dissonance, while being somewhat contemplative. doesn't matter if vocal or instrumental.
what i don't want is lots of shrieky brass-heavy tone clusters or thin, monophonic drones, which some experimental minimalists have done.
grateful for any tips. thanks!
Eastern European composers seem to have the lock on "moving sound mass" compositions. Lutoslawski is a personal favorite. Check out "Three Poems by Henri Michaux" and "Mi-Parti for Symphony Orchestra".
There's Penderecki, of course, but he may be too shrieky for you.
Sofia Gubaidulina is good. Check out "Stimmen... Verstummen" where weird orchestral gestures continually alternate with a fluttery D Major chord.
If you don't mind going for early 20th Century stuff, Ruth Crawford Seeger's "Andante for Strings" is hard to beat:
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It's a matter of definition, I suppose, but I think both Scriabin and Messiaen wrote music along the familiar "Cartesian" axes of music used by everyone from Bach to Webern, where horizontal melodies intersect to form vertical harmonies, and there's generally a pretty clear distinction between the two. I think the "sound mass compositions" the OP is referring to is where there's a kind of "smudging" between the vertical and horizontal dimensions of music.
It's a matter of definition, I suppose, but I think both Scriabin and Messiaen wrote music along the familiar "Cartesian" axes of music used by everyone from Bach to Webern, where horizontal melodies intersect to form vertical harmonies, and there's generally a pretty clear distinction between the two. I think the "sound mass compositions" the OP is referring to is where there's a kind of "smudging" between the vertical and horizontal dimensions of music.
I was thinking less along classification/theory lines and more along the lines of `what i do want is textural complexity and a fair amount of atonality / dissonance, while being somewhat contemplative. doesn't matter if vocal or instrumental.`
In any case, music is one area (movies are another) where I feel almost no problem being completely untheoretical/analytic. As such, I honestly have almost no idea what you said above (haha), except that Cartesian and musical harmony in the same sentence makes me go, `EEEK!`
i have plenty of penderecki and while i like a lot of it, a fair amount is fairly shrieky. but i will give it a second pass -- i haven't listened to it in a while and maybe i am generalizing to the "threnody" example.
messiaen i like too, but for the most part it is fairly traditional and transparent -- i.e., i can decompose the harmonies into a number of discrete parts. (i like the "cartesian" term -- i think i know exactly what you mean.)
i was looking more for a harmonical opaque cluster-f*ck where i can't do this, yet isn't gratuitously avant-garde or looking to shock -- i.e., is heavily textural and almost ambient, which is why i picked the ligeti example.
anyway, thanks, i do appreciate the leads, and will check out the stockhausen.
(funny stockhausen anecdote: as a 11-year old kid i attended a stocky concert -- he was touring with his "troupe", which consisted of his son, markus, and a couple of others. they were playing some kind of mutant chamber music. stocky had this massive tone generator -- which must have been some kind of primitive synthesizer -- in the middle of the concert hall as a fifth "member". markus was in a skin-tight bunny rabbit suit, prancing about on stage and stuffing various stops down the throat of his trumpet to change the timbre. by the mid-point of the concert half the audience had walked out.
needless to say it was the wildest musical experience a 11-year old could have.)
and "Mi-Parti for Symphony Orchestra".
