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post #16 of 38
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I'm not a surgeon, but from a general medical ethics point of view, if the person has full capacity, then I'd suggest this sort of extreme body modification may not be a particularly unethical thing to be involved in. To use a tailoring analogy, if you felt somebody would be better off with a clean look, but they insisted on lots of drape, if you were sure they absolutely understood what they were asking for, you might still proceed. Now, if the person had impaired capacity, or serious psychological issues driving his desire to get this type of surgery, and the surgeon proceeded anyway, absolutely I would consider that unethical. I leave it to you/others to suggest a tailoring analogy here, perhaps using one of our esteemed members and their bespoke tailors... Of course, it can be argued whether it's possible to want this kind of modification without having those serious psychological issues, but there is a theoretical possible subset that might fit those criteria. I suppose, in some respects, in might be akin to surgery for body dysmorphia. Not something I approve of personally, and it is a highly controversial field, but there are those who hold that it is acceptable/ethical to perform.
Valid points.
post #17 of 38
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Originally Posted by Holdfast View Post
I'm not a surgeon, but from a general medical ethics point of view, if the person has full capacity, then I'd suggest this sort of extreme body modification may not be a particularly unethical thing to be involved in. To use a tailoring analogy, if you felt somebody would be better off with a clean look, but they insisted on lots of drape, if you were sure they absolutely understood what they were asking for, you might still proceed.

Now, if the person had impaired capacity, or serious psychological issues driving his desire to get this type of surgery, and the surgeon proceeded anyway, absolutely I would consider that unethical. I leave it to you/others to suggest a tailoring analogy here, perhaps using one of our esteemed members and their bespoke tailors...

Of course, it can be argued whether it's possible to want this kind of modification without having those serious psychological issues, but there is a theoretical possible subset that might fit those criteria.

I suppose, in some respects, in might be akin to surgery for body dysmorphia. Not something I approve of personally, and it is a highly controversial field, but there are those who hold that it is acceptable/ethical to perform.



On the ethical point of reduced mental capacity , anyone spending $5000 on a suit could be commited to a mental asylum....

Body dysmorphia is an interesting subject especially in the medical field...

Like plastic surgery ,is it ethical to operate on somebody who doesn't need it or had already too much ops?
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post #19 of 38
The woman behind Alicia Douval is the one I was talking about.
LL
post #20 of 38
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the booking form says he's 5'10" and 125 lbs


i'm curious, how would one get the grooves in the side of his head like that?

It's called scarification. Basically, they take a scalpel and cut lines into you and when it heals it makes those lines.

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If those horns are the product of cosmetic surgery one has to question the ethics of the surgeon.

Surgeons don't do that (at least I've never heard of any). People at piercing/tattoo places are the ones who do the implants and scarification. Yes, that means it's done without any anesthesia.
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Scarification during the act - so artistic, no?

post #23 of 38
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Originally Posted by Wupper View Post

To quote Chris Rock, this kid - growing up - "missed a few hugs."
post #24 of 38
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Originally Posted by Holdfast View Post
I'm not a surgeon, but from a general medical ethics point of view, if the person has full capacity, then I'd suggest this sort of extreme body modification may not be a particularly unethical thing to be involved in. To use a tailoring analogy, if you felt somebody would be better off with a clean look, but they insisted on lots of drape, if you were sure they absolutely understood what they were asking for, you might still proceed. Now, if the person had impaired capacity, or serious psychological issues driving his desire to get this type of surgery, and the surgeon proceeded anyway, absolutely I would consider that unethical. I leave it to you/others to suggest a tailoring analogy here, perhaps using one of our esteemed members and their bespoke tailors... Of course, it can be argued whether it's possible to want this kind of modification without having those serious psychological issues, but there is a theoretical possible subset that might fit those criteria. I suppose, in some respects, in might be akin to surgery for body dysmorphia. Not something I approve of personally, and it is a highly controversial field, but there are those who hold that it is acceptable/ethical to perform.
It's outrageous that you should suggest that drape of a suit jacket is the moral equivalent to this extreme body modification. I'm told that people are allowed to spend upwards of $3k on a drape bespoke without going before a panel of psychiatrists - the harm from a drape is permanent - tatts can be removed or covered up, the horns can be cut off or hidden by a hat, drape scars all. A picture of a drape jacket posted here or another forum will upset more people than a pic of scarification. Hell, I'm not even sure that drape exists. There is strict licensing of tattooists, anyone can call themselves a tailor and start making drape jackets.
post #25 of 38
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Must be interesting when he goes for a job interview.
post #26 of 38
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Originally Posted by fxh View Post
It's outrageous that you should suggest that drape of a suit jacket is the moral equivalent to this extreme body modification.

I'm told that people are allowed to spend upwards of $3k on a drape bespoke without going before a panel of psychiatrists - the harm from a drape is permanent - tatts can be removed or covered up, the horns can be cut off or hidden by a hat, drape scars all.

A picture of a drape jacket posted here or another forum will upset more people than a pic of scarification. Hell, I'm not even sure that drape exists.

There is strict licensing of tattooists, anyone can call themselves a tailor and start making drape jackets.

I'm glad someone else out there understands. I appoint you to run the internet viral campaign to rid the world of this danger.
post #27 of 38
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Must be interesting when he goes for a job interview.

It something that I never really understood. Face tats make you largely unemployable in the legitimate economy without an obvious offsetting benefit from the gray or illegitimate economy. I don't think getting a face tat would increase your earnings as a muscian, head-shop employee or as a drug-dealer so in the end you just earn less
post #28 of 38
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It something that I never really understood. Face tats make you largely unemployable in the legitimate economy without an obvious offsetting benefit from the gray or illegitimate economy. I don't think getting a face tat would increase your earnings as a muscian, head-shop employee or as a drug-dealer so in the end you just earn less

Whole Foods will hire you no matter what sort of outlandish tats you have.
post #29 of 38
Fantastic Zombie Boy interview:

http://www.bizarremag.com/weird-news...ombie_boy.html

Money quote:

Is there any kind of body modification you wouldn't have?

Cock-splitting. I've seen pictures of that and it's not for me. But I'd tattoo my cock. I'm thinking of having reptile scales and cockroaches.

I've had different ideas that aren't relevant to my body suit. One was quite sacrilegious. I thought about having my cock tattooed like a Cyclops Jesus ding-dong. There would be a crown of thorns around it, an eyeball and some scales. And there'd be a crucifix in the background, so my cock would be like Jesus on the cross. But in the end it just sounded completely wrong.
post #30 of 38
Do you think any of these folks have a moment of introspection where they think, "perhaps I took a wrong turn back there somewhere"?
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