I guess I don't see them as wretched. I would wear leather loafers if I found any that were comfortable like house shoes. I think thats the appeal of these, they seem comfortable and as though they'd go well with jean/chino fits.
I couldn't find it, but there's a fit Rye did last year with them that initially piqued my interest in them as a shoe.
I couldn't find it, but there's a fit Rye did last year with them that initially piqued my interest in them as a shoe.










