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post #16 of 136
Apparently, all this stuff was made especially for Gilt. The quality sounds good, though. From the preview:


"This collection of superlative suits – plus one killer tuxedo – is the result of a collaboration between America’s most legendary tailor and Gilt Man head buyer Christopher Wong, who chose all the fabrics and specified the cuts and detailing. The collection, which is handmade at Greenfield’s storied workshop in Brooklyn, boasts the rare details that define fine tailoring: buttons made of horn and mother-of-pearl, hand-sewn shoulder seams, a full-stitched lining with contrasting details, an Irish-linen collar felt, and – of course – full canvasing. Not to mention a fit that’s as modern as the details are traditional."
post #17 of 136
It will be interesting to see how they sell. Greenfield's name is included so I doubt they would produce a garment that would diminish their reputation. Still, it's very tough to purchase a suit when you have no idea how it fits. I assume "modern" = slim but I have tried slim fitting stuff that is flattering, some that is not and some that required me to size up. Last thing I want is a large Gilt credit.
post #18 of 136
Why would I want a suit designed by the head buyer of Gilt? Bloody hell, they take themselves way too seriously.

lefty
post #19 of 136
These garments will most likely be made to "Gilt Specifications," which is code for "pure, unadulterated shit." And because Greenfield doesn't do RTW, you have zero reference point for how this utter shit is going to fit when it arrives. If the fit is off, you will have zero chance at receiving a refund - only a credit toward more unflattering, cheaply made utter shit. Gilt: a well-deserved tax levied on clueless fashion victims.
post #20 of 136
Yeah it's on the same part of the site that had the undiscounted "exclusive" BB sale the other day. I know Greenfield makes some high quality suits, but I bet that he can turn down the level of quality to match different pricepoints. I don't trust anything that is made for Gilt.
post #21 of 136
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Originally Posted by Bull View Post
These garments will most likely be made to "Gilt Specifications," which is code for "pure, unadulterated shit." And because Greenfield doesn't do RTW, you have zero reference point for how this utter shit is going to fit when it arrives. If the fit is off, you will have zero chance at receiving a refund - only a credit toward more unflattering, cheaply made utter shit. Gilt: a well-deserved tax levied on clueless fashion victims.

So you're saying that when a company like Borrelli or Isaia dumps product through Gilt that it is "unflattering, cheaply made utter shit" ?

If I were a buyer in this sale, I'd probably go into it assuming that they've learned something about sizing in the 30+ years they've been in business. Most people know what size to ask for in an OTR suit even if they are used to having their garments made for them. That size would probably be a safe starting point.
post #22 of 136
Anyone have an updated estimate of how much a MG MTM suit costs at their factory?
post #23 of 136
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Originally Posted by Bull View Post
These garments will most likely be made to "Gilt Specifications," which is code for "pure, unadulterated shit." And because Greenfield doesn't do RTW, you have zero reference point for how this utter shit is going to fit when it arrives. If the fit is off, you will have zero chance at receiving a refund - only a credit toward more unflattering, cheaply made utter shit. Gilt: a well-deserved tax levied on clueless fashion victims.

So, Bull, what is your deal with GILT? I have gotten some things there that I don't consider "unflattering, cheaply made utter shit." I have had some negative experiences as well, but not bad enough to cause me to vent like this every time this company is named in a post.

Mike
post #24 of 136
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Originally Posted by MBreinin View Post
So, Bull, what is your deal with GILT? I have gotten some things there that I don't consider "unflattering, cheaply made utter shit." I have had some negative experiences as well, but not bad enough to cause me to vent like this every time this company is named in a post.

Mike

I once got a few black fleece shirts that looked like seconds and were final sale. A few had misplaced/loose buttons and a few others that are spread collar without any collar stays that I can't get to stay down. Not sure if they were made for gilt or not, but they seemed to have a ton of them and I've never seen them at black fleece. I should have known.

I also got a pair of Gordon Rush shoes that were the most poorly-made pieces of shit that I have ever seen, but they were really cheap so I just wear them when it is raining out.

I've also gotten some really good deals on a few things, but I feel like good deals are harder to come by now and I've been seeing a lot of stuff that isn't actually marked down. Now I don't really buy anything unless I am positive how much it should cost and am pretty sure that it is not made for Gilt.

I know that Greenfield has a great reputation and all, but I just don't trust Gilt enough to buy anything that I know has been made for them.
post #25 of 136
A little more info http://www.acontinuouslean.com/2010/...field-for-gilt
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Before we start looking at photos of the merchandise, let’s go over the hard details for the Martin Greenfield for Gilt tailored goodness. All suits feature full canvas construction. The jacket sleeves have attached buttons, but also are made so that they can be lengthened and have working buttons added once proper fit. The collection is comprised of six different super 120s wool suits, two summer cotton options and a peak lapel tuxedo. Everything but the tux are of the 2-button notch lapel and side vent variety (I like to call side vents “dual exhaust”). The jackets have a passport pocket, pen pocket, cell phone pocket and your normal breast pocket. The entire collection is made in Brooklyn, USA. All of the suits are full canvased with a lot of hand sewn construction. No bullshit, I went there and saw it being done. The cut is slim and trim, but not crazy small. I was even able to pour myself into one and it looked pretty great. I will say that I needed to size up, so take that into consideration. That said, I spoke to Gilt about returns and they informed me that this sale will have the normal 21 day return or exchange policy (Gilt will even work to get you the size you need it they are sold out). Also keep in mind that all of the Martin Greenfield for Gilt suits will be sold as separates, so you can mix and match. File this whole thing under “no brainer.” The pants are priced from $178 (for the cotton) to $198 for the wool. Jackets range from $698 for cotton to $998 for super 120s. The tuxedo jacket is priced at $1078.
post #26 of 136
I am totally perplexed by companies that size their clothes so that you have to size up. I can understand varying the cut, but when it gets to the point where a man with a 42" chest can no longer wear a size 42, it's goofy.
post #27 of 136
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I am totally perplexed by companies that size their clothes so that you have to size up. I can understand varying the cut, but when it gets to the point where a man with a 42" chest can no longer wear a size 42, it's goofy.

I'd say that the converse is true - that is, most brand, and most American brands or mad-for-American market, brands, in particular, are cut oversized. I have a true 39" chest, and the size 38 Hickey Freeman dinner jacket (and dinner jackets are supposed to fit like gloves) I tried on at Nordstrom fit like a sack - easily the right size for a guy with a 41-42" chest and huge arms.
post #28 of 136
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Each label and customer has its own requirements for fabric and fit, but they all come to Greenfield for one thing: A legendary commitment to quality and hand-craftsmanship. That’s certainly what we had in mind when we sought him out to create an exclusive collection for Gilt.
Looks like made for Gilt.
post #29 of 136
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Originally Posted by johnny_flapjack View Post
So you're saying that when a company like Borrelli or Isaia dumps product through Gilt that it is "unflattering, cheaply made utter shit" ?

If I were a buyer in this sale, I'd probably go into it assuming that they've learned something about sizing in the 30+ years they've been in business. Most people know what size to ask for in an OTR suit even if they are used to having their garments made for them. That size would probably be a safe starting point.

He's right though. Your OTR size is "safe starting point" but where does that take you when you can't return it if it doesn't fit. I'm a "44L". Go to Saks and measure chest/shoulder width/length of all the different "44L" coats you see. You will observe that labeled sizing means nothing.
post #30 of 136
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Originally Posted by newinny View Post
I'm guessing 1600 per suit.

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Originally Posted by gdl203 View Post
I'm guessing half of that, maybe less

Looks like it split the difference - $1200
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