Originally Posted by mizanation
putting fear in a roomfull of mcdojo blackbelts is a HORRIBLE measure of practical effectiveness.
let me explain my viewpoints on krav maga. some places that teach krav maga are great. however, most places, like many combatives, are just using clever marketing to mask what is more similar to a traditional martial art--with all the artificial mystique and heirarchy. there are some good schools, one of my good friends is a highly respected krav maga instructor (he also has a substantial amateur boxing career and years of competitive, black-belt level judo--coincidence?). i would DEFINITELY recommend his school, but most schools are not like that (and i think he would even agree with this).
btw, i highly disagree about the learning curve statement--for traditional arts, yeah, of course krav maga will be more effective within the first 200 hours (or more). but for bjj? for muay thai? even for regular western boxing? come on, man! in the first 200 hours, a bjj student will learn how to take the krav maga guy down, maintain position, and apply 1-2 submissions. in muay thai and boxing, they would spend all that time sparring and conditioning and would be much more ready than the KM guy.
also, you are saying that the only way to get good at BJJ is to put in 14 hours a week? i know plenty of people who have very busy lives who put in only a few hours a week and are pretty good.
honestly, I have no idea how krav is tought in the states, but I imagine that you may be right. most of the people who have krav schools have extensive backgrounds in other martial arts - I think it is the suporting arts that dictate how they run the school, if they are boxers or do something pretty serious, then the school will be more serious. real krav is the real deal, but there isn't money in teaching people short courses.
as to the learning curve - we will have to disagree there. the whole point of krav, how it was desiegned and built, was for the short learning curve.