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post #136 of 193
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Originally Posted by skalogre
Four years of kendo = THOUSANDS of blows to the head Me not affrectred murch I thrink

I thought Kendo is fencing? Is there also striking, or am I mixing it up with something else?
post #137 of 193
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Originally Posted by Brian SD
I thought Kendo is fencing? Is there also striking, or am I mixing it up with something else?

The shinai simulates a cutting blade (basically duelling) so you are hit CONSTANTLY with it. The head is a main (and one of the most obvious) targets.
post #138 of 193
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Originally Posted by skalogre
The head is a main (and one of the most obvious) targets.

In my case, the ego is the largest target.
post #139 of 193
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Originally Posted by Tokyo Slim
In my case, the ego is the largest target.

post #140 of 193
Its hard to hit with a stick (or sword for that matter), which is why I usually win stick/sword/baseball bat/shishkabob fights.
post #141 of 193
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Originally Posted by Tokyo Slim
Its hard to hit with a stick (or sword for that matter), which is why I usually win stick/sword/baseball bat/shishkabob fights.

I don't know what the hell sort of establishments you frequent Slim where this occurs but I'll be damned, I want some pics
post #142 of 193
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Originally Posted by raley
Cool thanks for the explanations. I think I will look into both... also thanks for the Houston links.

no problem, man. i hope you find something that you will enjoy and do for a long time. houston is a pretty good place to train for boxing, mma and bjj, so consider yourself lucky.
post #143 of 193
at a younger age, i rose pretty fast in rank in tae kwon do. I found it very easy at a young age b/c of flexibility, speed, etc. and was able to beat people everytime at matches and its gotten me out of a bunch of fights later on.
post #144 of 193
some of us might not know what skalogre is talking about when he mentions kendo. here is a documentary which shows a little bit about kendo:

part 1:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncDBi...elated&search=

part 2:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPW7B...elated&search=

part 3:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oKSJ...elated&search=

part 4:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaBKD...elated&search=

part 5:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiNZu...elated&search=
post #145 of 193
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Originally Posted by mizanation
some of us might not know what skalogre is talking about when he mentions kendo. here is a documentary which shows a little bit about kendo:

part 1:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncDBi...elated&search=

part 2:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPW7B...elated&search=

part 3:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oKSJ...elated&search=

part 4:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaBKD...elated&search=

part 5:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiNZu...elated&search=


Woah, good find mizanation! I had seen that a few years ago, I hope that somewhow I'll find a good quality copy somewhere - preferably without the Korean subtitles over the english subtitles!
post #146 of 193
yeah, the subtitles were annoying. if you need translation of certain sections, i can help you out. but still, great stuff.
post #147 of 193
I haven't read this thread yet so I don't know what has been said yet. I just want to add a few things.

I trained in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and Muay Thai for about 3 years (had to stop due to injury) at a club that was very serious. They have several guys who compete in King of the Cage and do very well. With that being said, I would recommend Muay Thai as the martial art to take. It will teach you almost everything you need to know. Low kicks are really valuable and I can't count the number of times I've kicked someone, who doesn't fight, in the legs only to have them drop both their hands as a reaction leaving themselves wide open. Also, you can usually kick someone from outside their punching range. The other thing Thai fighting teachs you is the clinch. A lot of fights end up with one person hanging onto the other one. From here, you can throw some knees and do some serious damage.

The thing I found that makes Muay Thai so effective is that it is fairly simple. You learn the basic punches, kicks, knees, elbows, defenses etc then drill them and condition your body until they become effective.

I would stay away from ground fighting unless you want to compete in martial arts. Ground fighting is great, don't get me wrong, it's fun, a great workout and you can really dominate someone who doesn't know what they are doing; however, the ground is the last place you want to be in a street fight. You can get stabbed easier, stomped on etc.

Hope that helps.
post #148 of 193
totally agree. Muay Thai + BJJ is probably all you really need for hand-to-hand. Muay Thai for the reasons you listed. I also agree that you don't want to be on the ground in a street fight, however, a lot of times the fight ends up on the ground whether you want it to or not. If you want to bring the fight back to standing, you will need to know ground technique to get back up.
post #149 of 193
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Originally Posted by mizanation

I also agree that you don't want to be on the ground in a street fight, however, a lot of times the fight ends up on the ground whether you want it to or not. If you want to bring the fight back to standing, you will need to know ground technique to get back up.

I definately agree but learning one martial art well enough for it to be effective is time consuming as is; let alone learning two. For learning a single art, Muay Thai is the way to go. If you really work at your clinch fighting, you won't end up on the ground that easily.

The stand up fighters with good clinchs are doing really well in UFC and Pride right now. Anderson Silva killed Rich Franklin that way. I know there are a few other examples lately but I can't think right now.

If you can, find a club that teachs MMA as opposed to a single art. These clubs tend to have athletes that are much more serious about training and fighting. It's one thing to learn stand up and ground fighting seperately but it's much better to learn them together in an environment that is focusing on MMA. Certain BBJ techniques, for example, will get your head pounded in if you add striking like you would find in a street fight. Also, a lot of ground fighters have no problem being on their back. This is not where you want to be in a street fight no matter how good you are. An MMA club will focus more so on keeping dominate position on the ground and using strikes to beat your opponent instead of submissions.
post #150 of 193
again, totally agree. i go to the only mma gym in new york city, so we train everything--muay thai, clinch, wrestling, subs, ground and pound. not everyone has this luxury. yes, muay thai clinch is killing everyone right now. here is the biggest current example: vanderlei silva. i don't think anyone has shown the effectiveness of muay thai clinch better than him. randy couture also had a great clinch (but greco-roman clinch) and he destroyed people with that using his dirty boxing. if you can learn only one art--muay thai is the way to go. i train bjj because it's like my trump card. if i'm up against a decent striker with a lot of weight on me (which there are many in new york), i'm not going to stand with him. when i'm up against a guy like that, i close the distance, get inside control and take it to the ground where i can get knee on belly or strike from mount or side control. it's a lot easier to punch the guy when he is lying on the ground--at least for me. i'm not even thinking of submission and i'm definitely not trying to play guard. guard is great in the gym, but i don't like being there against an agressive opponent. and it's definitely a last resort when striking is involved. btw, where did you train?
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