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post #16 of 451
Get an M3 instead.

I got trackdays in 4hours A Lancista!
post #17 of 451
The 1er is ugly as sin, and not good ugly, like the Z3MC, those are in two completely separate camps. It's just straight ugly, I can't stand looking at these things, and it's like the size of an E36 coupe -They could've easily dropped the seat/rooflines by an inch for more greenhouse rake, raked the front end just a tad, not given it those lazy ass curves around the headlights or the fat fender flares and purposeless 'flame surfacing'... The fat, curved rockers on a 1er literally make it look like the car is bowing in the midsection just from the weight of the passengers inside - not a good look for a BMW, which are supposed to have a good flat beltline crease all the way down the sides, rockers that exude confidence, restrained lines that exhibit pulled tension, I could go on and on, but when Scion coupes start looking better-designed than a BMW, something is very wrong. I agree they need a small LTW coupe that is not an M3, and not V8, but they really should've not just tacked flares and dual fart cans to a 1er coupe. They could've done much more, a souped up Z4 with a long fixed top, something like that. This, plus the M SUV's, and you can see whoever it is calling the shots really is not getting the picture. I'd much rather see a true M 7-series (600hp+, SWB, kit, huge forged wheels, carbon brakes, at the very least) to compete with the big AMG's and the S8, rather than an M SUV or another 1er coupe...
post #18 of 451
Wow so much hate, the car hasn't even came out yet give it a chance..... If its going to have the M badge put on it by BMW you know its gonna kick ass.
post #19 of 451
I have hopes (possibly to be dashed, due to seemingly unavoidable lardy weight issues with modern cars) that it will hark back to nimble E30 M3 days.

I kinda like the look, in so far as it has shades of the 2002. That said, in the UK we had the godawful hatchback version for a while before they released the 2 door; the hatch looks like a stunted hearse to my eyes, worst looking BMW ever IMHO. How they went from elegant E39 5 series to the hideous 1 hatch in just a few short years makes my skin crawl. So I suppose next to that, the 2-door couldn't help but look a beauty. Nice trick, BMW!
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post #21 of 451
i have the 135i. it's the most fun BMW i've driven or owned, and i love the way it looks, and it has the best performance-per-dollar ratio out of the whole BMW stable. so....35 more hp and M handling bits? would it be worth taking a bath on a trade-in and paying almost $50k for this one? i doubt it, but let's see when it comes out.
post #22 of 451
The 135i reminded me a lot of a E36 M3 so this will be great I'm sure. The new Ms are too bloated with crap. I quite like the new M3, but its really really far off base compared to it's roots. They need a model like this to fill in the gap left since the E36 M3.
post #23 of 451
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Originally Posted by TylerDurden View Post
Wow so much hate, the car hasn't even came out yet give it a chance..... If its going to have the M badge put on it by BMW you know its gonna kick ass.

Like the X5M and X6M? I think this 1 Series M is the M division's way to assuage their guilt from making those two cars after saying M would never make such things.

The 1 styling is definitely a mess... the saggy flamer surfacing on the door makes the car look like it has a full diaper.
post #24 of 451
more HP than any one person needs......
post #25 of 451
I still would like to see weight reduction. But this is promising. I'd say that the 1-series is pretty similar to the E36 to me, but everyone was hoping for the E30.

Now if they could just get some better styling. After trimming back the Bangle nonsense, they are just left with a mess across their line.
post #26 of 451
I wonder if they can shoehorn the E9x M's 4.0 in this car. I doubt they would though as it would make it faster than the M3. My guess given their love affair with turbos of late is 3.0ish turbo. This is fine since for sake of completeness in the lineup, but bringing the M3 CSL back and stateside is really what they need to do to appease everyone. EDIT: Just say the Kay Segler clip...he's awesome.
post #27 of 451
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Originally Posted by Roikins View Post
Whoa, slow down... BMW can still screw it up by including iDrive and electric leather seats to make it over 3300 pounds.

I'm almost certain it'll be over 3300 pounds.
post #28 of 451
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Originally Posted by akatsuki View Post
I still would like to see weight reduction. But this is promising. I'd say that the 1-series is pretty similar to the E36 to me, but everyone was hoping for the E30.

Now if they could just get some better styling. After trimming back the Bangle nonsense, they are just left with a mess across their line.

I think Bangle's influence will remain for a generation or two at least. Take the new Z4 for example. It wasn't designed by him, but it carriers over many of the elements of the Bangle year cars.
post #29 of 451
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Originally Posted by DNW View Post
Oh yeah, it's a midget.
That's just ridiculous. It's about the same size as the last generation E36 3-series. BMWs gave gotten bigger and heavier across the board over the years--it's a pleasure to see some stalling to that trend. The current M3 is a great car, but a completely divergent concept from earlier iterations, as others have pointed out. Consider that the current 135i performs about on par with the previous generation M3. Not only are they about the same size, but they weigh about the same and make about the same power (the M3 had 30 more HP on paper, but much less torque). This new 1-series based M car should easily outperform that old M3, and give the current M3 a run for the money; I expect it to be more nimble and a better corner carver, but have a little less accelerative grunt. However, I would not be surprised if it simply matched or bettered it in all respects. A new M3 is on the horizon, after all. The M-division head has said the 1M won't be adding weight, and that weight reduction over the 135i is a goal. However, they are still trying to keep the price around $45k, so we probably won't see a carbon fiber roof, as on the M3.
post #30 of 451
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Originally Posted by ramuman View Post
I think Bangle's influence will remain for a generation or two at least. Take the new Z4 for example. It wasn't designed by him, but it carriers over many of the elements of the Bangle year cars.

Yeah, I suppose. That car is a cross between a whale with a hacked-off tail and a penis...
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