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post #31 of 345
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Originally Posted by cleancut View Post
veganism...I am a vegan and have been one for a year.

We are getting all kinds of vegs on this forum as of late. Great, welcome aboard.
post #32 of 345
would probably gnaw my fingers, bite into a vagina and catch house rats if forced to be vegan
post #33 of 345
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Originally Posted by Roikins View Post
Death, no question. I'm vegetarian most weekdays, actually. I tend to stick to a simple vegetable soup or salad for lunch and dinner M-Th, but that's so I can go meat and foie crazy on the weekends, and on the off weekday when I get bored. Can vegans take medication that was developed through animal testing or chicken egg derived vaccines? If not, the world may be better off from their death from illness.
I am actually involved in animal research, yet I am vegan. This seems like a major inconsistency, but in a way, it's not. See, to eat animals is totally unnecessary whereas to research biology animal experiments are the only way to go. There's simply no way around it, though we often can and do culture animal cells in vitro to avoid the difficulty of working with the live animal. You have to understand that working with animals is a big pain in the a$$. But there's still a question of whether the research is necessary. Most scientists think so: research is for the greater good like you said. It's all about intention. My $ 0.02. As a side note, some researchers are more careful about animals' feelings than others, but I can say I always do my best even though I only research fruit flies. For example, before dumping them into the "fly morgue" (soapy ethanol), I always knock them out on CO_2.
post #34 of 345
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I am actually involved in animal research, yet I am vegan. This seems like a major inconsistency, but in a way, it's not. See, to eat animals is totally unnecessary whereas to research biology animal experiments are the only way to go. There's simply no way around it, though we often can and do culture animal cells in vitro to avoid the difficulty of working with the animal. But there's still a question of whether the research is necessary. Most scientists think so: research is for the greater good like you said. It's all about intention. My $ 0.02.

As a side note, some researchers are more careful about animals' feelings than others, but I can say I always do my best even though I only research fruit flies. For example, before dumping them into the "fly morgue" (soapy ethanol), I always knock them out on CO_2.
Let me understand this. Of the two outspoken vegans, we have you, an animal torturer and killer, and nosu, who doesn't eat vegetables. Does vegan = schizophrenic?
post #35 of 345
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Let me understand this. Of the two outspoken vegans, we have you, an animal torturer and killer, and nosu, who doesn't eat vegetables. Does vegan = schizophrenic?
To not hurt anything in your entire life is impossible. All I'm saying is that eating animals is unnecessary. To do research, it is sometimes necessary. If I have to, I kill flies. But when I do, it's for a purpose other than just having something tasty in my mouth. By the way, schizophrenic is not the same thing as split-personality. I think you meant split-personality.
post #36 of 345
lol lol lol lol
post #37 of 345
Keep telling yourself that, Mengele.
post #38 of 345
veganism (read: clandestine meat consumer)
post #39 of 345
Death.

If I had my way IRL, all vegetarians and vegans would be shot.
post #40 of 345
I wouldn't even know how to be vegan. Since when is butter is an animal product? Unless someone picked/cooked my meals for me, death.
post #41 of 345
If this is a serious question, veganism obviously. I'm pretty sure I could live a happy life without animal products (not sure why I would want to, but that's not the question). If this for the lulz, then death. Now, I'd rather die than wear an Arnys forestiere.
post #42 of 345
I realize this is all a bit tongue-in-cheek, but it didn't have its genesis in Dumb Threads, so I'll address the germ of seriousness contained here.

For the life of me, I cannot explain why vegetarians and vegans (of which, at least from a dietary perspective, I'm one) get such animus here. Never once have I tried to advance the vegan diet, nor have I cast aspersions on those who choose to eat animal derived foods. Yet the meat-eaters among us seem to feel it's open season for attacks on the vegetarian folks.

You want to eat meat? Fine. Go forth and live your life. You'll get no gruff from me. But I choose not to (in large part because the men in my family toil with heart disease at an early age, so I need every advantage I can get). I simply ask for the same respect.

Is that too much to ask?
post #43 of 345
VG, I agree with you wholeheartedly. Live and let live.

To be fair though, most of these debates generally start with a vegan telling meat-eaters that they're monsters, this one included. I actually think that there's a lot more lesson givers on the anti-meat side than there is active vegan-mocking on the omnivore side. Not that it's necessarily an excuse for either side's close mindedness.
post #44 of 345
^ fwiw, I would rather go vegan than eat a blue chubby smiling frog from pyon pyon
post #45 of 345
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Originally Posted by gdl203 View Post
VG, I agree with you wholeheartedly. Live and let live.

To be fair though, most of these debates generally start with a vegan telling meat-eaters that they're monsters, this one included. I actually think that there's a lot more lesson givers on the anti-meat side than there is active vegan-mocking on the omnivore side. Not that it's necessarily an excuse for either side's close mindedness.

gdl, I've gone back over this thread, and nowhere can I find where a vegan tars a meat-eater with the monster aspersion. Maybe I missed it. What I did find was a hatred of veganism that borders on the irrational, complete with threats of violence (all meant in good fun, I'm sure).
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