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post #16 of 25
Sort-of related question:

I am selling a Polo RL (Blue Label) suit on Ebay, which is made in the US, and is fully canvassed.

Who is the maker? Hickey Freeman?
post #17 of 25
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Originally Posted by Holdfast
My understanding has been that RLPL is the highest line and Polo Blue Label below with Black being variable in quality between RLPL and Blue but more fashion-forward in style than either.
I believe that was the consensus around here before the actual launch, but now that we know the Black Label suits to be fused, I think that it's just more contemporary styles made to Blue label quality.
post #18 of 25
Thread Starter 
anybody know where I can see pieces in the black label line? polo.com doesn't seem to be aware of any men's items in this brand


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post #19 of 25
You forgot RLX : )
post #20 of 25
Quote:
Originally Posted by Edward Appleby
I believe that was the consensus around here before the actual launch, but now that we know the Black Label suits to be fused, I think that it's just more contemporary styles made to Blue label quality.


Thanks for the correction.
post #21 of 25
Black Label is fused?

I was just at a Polo store in DC and looked under the lapel of a black label garment. You can easily see the stiches under the lapel like you would see on an Oxxford coat. I felt the bottom of the jacket to feel for canvas and felt it's presence. Perhaps I am greatly mistaken, but it seems to me that the black label is almost as good as the purple label in construction. Perhaps the chest pad-stitching is done by machine.

Can anyone comment, for at half the price of RLPL, it seems like a darn good deal to me...
post #22 of 25
FYI -

There was a full page ad in the Wall Street Journal yesterday for RL Purple Label, Made to Measure.

Said "Fall 2006, Now through October 1"
post #23 of 25
Quote:
Originally Posted by morsem
Black Label is fused?

I was just at a Polo store in DC and looked under the lapel of a black label garment. You can easily see the stiches under the lapel like you would see on an Oxxford coat. I felt the bottom of the jacket to feel for canvas and felt it's presence. Perhaps I am greatly mistaken, but it seems to me that the black label is almost as good as the purple label in construction. Perhaps the chest pad-stitching is done by machine.

Can anyone comment, for at half the price of RLPL, it seems like a darn good deal to me...

The first two seasons of Black Label suits were fused. RL was testing the market reaction to the suits and didn't want to get too invested if it flopped. Starting this season all Black Label suits are fully canvased, going foward they will be as well.
Purple Label suits are still head and shoulders above anything else (by RL) in terms of make. It is an entirely hand made garment (by St. Andrews), with horsehair canvas. Construction is on par with Kiton and Brioni.
However, what really separates these lines is aesthetics. Purple Label represents a traditional English heritage with Italian flair, done by an American. Black Label is very modern and directional line.
post #24 of 25
Whats versace mans ebay id?
post #25 of 25

I can verify Black label suits carry a floating canvas on account of my tailor (who Savile Row outsource to). I had a chalk-stripe Black label reconstructed. I doubt this is horse-hair canvas because he'd have mentioned, he'll know this stuff from his Savile Row clients. Floating canvas enables tailors to easily and accurately perform major alternations. The suit carries internal buttons for silk braces (suspenders US English): a good sign.

 

Personally the few items of Purple label I have I found over-priced. Polo appears very variable in quality and I still can't figure it. I love Rugbys, antiquated British styles, except they are made in China (only downside IMO).

 

Blue label is unquestionably high quality (I've a Glen plaid jacket) but I'm uncertain whether it is fixed or floating canvas.

 

Thin wool suits on a fixed canvas is a nightmare for a tailor to reconstruct and often results in pulls when slim-fitting ... had this trouble with Armani and Boss suit jackets.

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