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That's why I am surprised that as late as 1851 the shoemaker would have chosen such an "old-fashioned" last to show-off his skills in such a prestigious venue. After all, the Great Exhibition was all about "modern life". I think, it's fair to presume this boot was made by one of the top firms of the day, not by some village cobbler tinkering-away in his remote backwater.

Actually, I found them on this page, those boots are actually a pair and were made by a firm in Derby.


https://aprilphillipsfootwear.wordpress.com/tag/northampton-museum-and-gallery/

Great link. Beautiful boots. How big a town is Derby and how big a firm was it?
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Im glad the pics i took of those lovely boots find their way here and that it seems like to do their job of being conversational peices,
Looking at work like that is a very humbeling and motivational experience and I always wonder who made them and what it would have looked like when they where made.
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Im glad the pics i took of those lovely boots find their way here and that it seems like to do their job of being conversational peices,
Looking at work like that is a very humbeling and motivational experience and I always wonder who made them and what it would have looked like when they where made.

Are you Daniel Wegan? I hate to "out" you on your real name but I thought V said Daniel took the photos.

Anyways...thanks to whoever.
post #2764 of 2769
Yes. I'm Daniel Wegan.
I have been outed already so dont worry.
Sadly I dont have time get involved in shoe talk here as much as I would like to because I have to meny shoes to make over at Gaziano & Girling.
But I do read everything so every now and then I treat myself to minor participation.
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Thanks for taking the pics, Daniel and to Ville and others for posting them here.
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Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
I believe this boot (usually this kind of exhibits were just a single shoe/boot) were made for the Great Exhibition in 1851.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Exhibition


Here is another picture, taken from Daniel's album, which shows the actual last used in comparison to a modern last (Mr W's feet?)



It looks like a "symmetrical" last (identical last for left and right foot) which were around that time being replaced with the "asymmetrical" last (one last for the left foot, one for the right). I presume by 1851 a symmetrical last was already somewhat dated, nevertheless that particular shoemaker gave him preference over the more "modern" type of last.

Scheer in Vienna exhibits the last the firm had made (don't know what year) for Emperor Franz Joseph of Austria (reigned 1848 - 1916).
The Scheer last has the very same duck-toe-look, where the enormously extended and very square toe slopes down to nothing. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)


P.S. The Scheer last for Franz Joseph can be seen in the Vass book on page 35, as well as a sample of a symmetric last used by an Hungarian firm as late as the early 20th century.

It's a very interesting shape. Is that how the boot would look with a foot in it, or would it take the shape of the foot? I wonder how stiff the leather is and how much the boot's toe would extend past the wearer's toes.
post #2766 of 2769
Those boots are super soft and the leg is probably stiffer than the bottom of the boot.
considering the shape of the last and glove like nature of the leather I would say they would pretty much look like the foot with a duck beak like toe on it....
With these boots for about 10 other shoes from the same exhibition. Most of them where single shoes on much scaled down sizes and straight lasts(no lefts or rights).
So the fact that these where made as a pair and in a wearable size does justify the medal they where rewarded: )icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gificon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif
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Originally Posted by Metroboy View Post

Yes. I'm Daniel Wegan.
I have been outed already so dont worry.
Sadly I dont have time get involved in shoe talk here as much as I would like to because I have to meny shoes to make over at Gaziano & Girling.
But I do read everything so every now and then I treat myself to minor participation.

Thank you for the photos and thank you for your contributions.

cheers.gif
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Originally Posted by bengal-stripe View Post

That's why I am surprised that as late as 1851 the shoemaker would have chosen such an "old-fashioned" last to show-off his skills in such a prestigious venue. After all, the Great Exhibition was all about "modern life". I think, it's fair to presume this boot was made by one of the top firms of the day, not by some village cobbler tinkering-away in his remote backwater.

Yeah, most of the documentation I've seen suggests that by 1840 most shoes were being produced as a right and left.

And of course, 12 years seems sufficient time for the Blanchard lathe to have jumped back and forth across the pond several times. I wouldn't be surprised if there was a Blanchard in operation/demonstration mode at the Crystal Palace in '51.

edited because left off the "n't"

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Edited by DWFII - 2/27/15 at 10:04am
post #2769 of 2769
Perhaps the prize it was awarded was in the category of traditional symmetrical footwear or something along those lines, they had awards for everything at these Expositions.
Edited by ntempleman - 2/27/15 at 9:42am
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