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post #16 of 200
Thanks
Like I said I was just a bit curious as the closest I have ever been to a gun was standing next to a cop.
back to discussing weapons of choice now.
post #17 of 200
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Originally Posted by CoryB
If I had my druthers I'd carry a gun, but in Canada it is near impossible to get a concealed weapons permit. I believe the requirements are to be a former prime minister, involved in a mafia-related trial, etc. I believe there are only 50 carry permits in Canada.

Where do people conceal their weapons? One wouldn't want to destroy the sleek lines of a bespoke suit

that's every third person!
post #18 of 200
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Originally Posted by Tokyo Slim
Funny, I think that this is the same question that derailed the LAST thread...



Generally speaking its because sometime it might be neccesary to carry a gun to protect your life or the lives of the people you are with.
In countries where the general populace has no access to firearms, it becomes much less of an issue, because you are pretty sure that you aren't going to be shot when you go out for groceries. It doesn't even cross your mind. Here in the US, there are people who will stick a gun in your face for your watch in the middle of the day while you are walking through a park. Not that having a gun, knife, asp, or pepper spray in your waistband in this situation will neccesarily help you, but it makes you FEEL safer. Knowing that if you had to defend yourself, you aren't drastically unprepared to do so. Plus who knows when some crazy bastard is going to walk into your home,place of business,or your church and start blasting people because he hates Israel. In this situation, do you run and most likely get shot in the back, or shoot the guy?

The only drawback to this system is that many people who carry concealed weapons have no idea how to properly and safely use them.

My advice is to go to the range at least a few times a month to familiarize yourself with your weapon, and to gain enough skill with it that if you ever DO need to use it, you will be able to do so without shooting yourself or innocent bystanders. Practice (with an unloaded weapon of course) drawing from your concealed holster, until you can do it without fumbling around like an idiot. This is really the only way to learn that the best places to conceal a weapon aren't neccesarily the most practical places to conceal a weapon. And for gods sake take a weapons retention course. Nothing is more embarrasing than thinking you are Dirty Harry, pulling out your gun, and then having it snatched out of your hand by someone who has seen it done in some Steven Segal movie.

Other people might have different reasons, but IMO this is the best reason.

Oh please.
post #19 of 200
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by CoryB
If I had my druthers I'd carry a gun, but in Canada it is near impossible to get a concealed weapons permit. I believe the requirements are to be a former prime minister, involved in a mafia-related trial, etc. I believe there are only 50 carry permits in Canada.

Where do people conceal their weapons? One wouldn't want to destroy the sleek lines of a bespoke suit

I'll usually carry my HK tucked in my waistband at the small of my back under my shirt. It's not a very big gun so it's not really a big deal. Some people swear by carrying them in bags or fanny pack type things but I'm not fond of that.
post #20 of 200
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Originally Posted by drizzt3117
Nah, you can get a concealed carry permit with the right credentials. I have some connections with ATF and have some contracts with defense contractors and have the right creds.
Ah, that'd do it. No one gets them in CA without connections, and most of those people are politicians and celebrities. Same in New York.
post #21 of 200
Perhaps: This is for the glovebox:
post #22 of 200
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Originally Posted by odoreater
Oh please.

Yes, we all know the only reason to carry a handgun is to shoot the miserable son of a bitch who named you Sue.
post #23 of 200
It seems like more people need a war every generation to learn to abhor violence.
post #24 of 200
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Originally Posted by RJman
It seems like more people need a war every generation to learn to abhor violence.
It lasts as long as it lasts.
post #25 of 200
(please forgive any terminoligical errors)

i went shooting for a stag-do two weeks ago, it was the first time i had ever heard live rounds go off. we did an hour of clay pigeon with under and over 12 bore's, and an hour of rifle range, i fired a .22, a .357 scout (i think) and a pump action 12 bore firing a single lead pellet about the size of a fat thimble.

i enjoyed the clay pigeon shooting, and found the rifle range interesting, and can now use the experience as a point of reference for when i watch films or tv reports, or read books or articles, that involve shooting.

when i think back to the power though, especially of the pump action that left a significant bruise upon the shoulder of many of us, i can't help but think in the back of my mind about the physiological effect of a bullet entering a person - now more than before, the thought makes me feel quite sick. I fully appreciate the gun laws we have in the UK.
post #26 of 200
Interesting. In Finland only serious criminals carry guns.
post #27 of 200
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Buddy Love
Interesting. In Finland only serious criminals carry guns.

If that isn't a second amendment argument then I don't know what is.
post #28 of 200
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Originally Posted by drizzt3117
If that isn't a second amendment argument then I don't know what is.

I'm not arguing anything, just stated an interesting fact. Nothing else.
post #29 of 200
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Buddy Love
I'm not arguing anything, just stated an interesting fact. Nothing else.

My point is that you're making the second amendment argument, which is that if guns weren't legal, only criminals would have them.
post #30 of 200
I don't even disagree with you, but you don't need to politicize this thread or what BL was saying. Especially when this subject's gotten ridiculously nasty in the past. Or at least, if you must, be a little gentler about it.
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