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post #31 of 38
Actually, it has a fair bit to do with socio economic status, and extends beyond clothes, but Manton, for example, notes this in his book about clothing in particular. Because "rich" clothing is now attainable by the "poor", the "rich" (in the general sense of the word, take it as you will) wear styles that the poor (or formerly poor) dare not imitate, for fear of well, appearing poor (and having attained the signs of wealth, both the poor and the and newly rich do not want this). Thus you see the old rich wearing "American Trad" clothing, which is beat to hell, and kids from the Ghetto wearing everything looking fresh.


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Originally Posted by blackplatano
That's hilarious and true. I think that he means that you guys spend A LOT of money on clothes that simply dosen't look expensive. Example, Jap repos that look like thai fakes. You can rave about the quality all day but does anybody really need jeans that last 2 lifetimes when you are never going to wear it after 6 months? They fade and now look vintage, so you put it in the back of the closet and only use it to clean the house. $400 jeans...just to clean the house . Not to mention some simply don't fit as good as many "inferior" jeans. And since there's a fear of logos and designs or anything that looks a little out there, most of the clothes are just plain.

Plain jeans + plain shirt + chuck taylors = BORING...

ANYways...that's what i notice in NYC...bitch away. Prove me wrong
post #32 of 38
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LA Guy you are definitely on to something here. (I mean my thread is jacked to shit so I may as well join in). I totally agree with you on this. 'Poor people' wanting to look 'rich' will go for the most expensive - HIGHLY RECOGNIZABLE - brands. It's bling - it's loud - it screams 'my clothes are expesive' (and you'll know exactly what brand it is cuz it's right smack in your face). PPL who used to rock the hype brands are drifting to the more obscure cuz it's less likely to become ghettofied.

I have always been that way - I try to stay far away from 'ghetto fab'.
post #33 of 38
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Originally Posted by JoMak_NYC
LA Guy you are definitely on to something here. (I mean my thread is jacked to shit so I may as well join in). I totally agree with you on this. 'Poor people' wanting to look 'rich' will go for the most expensive - HIGHLY RECOGNIZABLE - brands. It's bling - it's loud - it screams 'my clothes are expesive' (and you'll know exactly what brand it is cuz it's right smack in your face). PPL who used to rock the hype brands are drifting to the more obscure cuz it's less likely to become ghettofied.

I have always been that way - I try to stay far away from 'ghetto fab'.

HAHAHAH Ghetto fab. Whenever I see someone with a 7XL tee and expensive trainers I want to knock the living shit out of them for offending my gaze.
post #34 of 38
I dress like I'm poor.

Except my wardrobe is poor. My jeans cost me 17 bucks.
post #35 of 38
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Originally Posted by Kid609
I dress like I'm poor.

Except my wardrobe is poor. My jeans cost me 17 bucks.

The telling thing would be whether you are, in fact, poor, and if so, whether you were born that way.

I am good friends with Gary Drinkwater, who owns Drinkwaters, a men's specialty clothing store in Cambridge, MA, and his customer, who is generally more affluent and established than the customer of, say, a Newbury Street Boutique (I exclude Alan Bilzerian and Louis Boston here, both of which have a customer base ranging far beyond Boston), is also more value and cost conscious. I always suggest great, understated jeans brands for his store, jeans that his customer, a slightly older guy who wants better quality than Levis, but doesn't want a "fashion jean" , might buy - 5EP, which has great washed jeans as well as less accessible "raw" jeans, was my latest suggestion - but I know that he wouldn't go for them, because the retail price would never fly with those guys. Instead, he has gone with Agave, which is both more accessible in price and in washes. Boston can support only one Louis and on Alan Bilzerian, which have a large fraction of out of town shoppers.
post #36 of 38
LA Guy I tried looking up Manton, but no luck. First name? Titles? Thanks, sounds interesting....
post #37 of 38
Manton is probably the most knowledgeable guy on the Mens Clothing section here, and on any one of the traditional men's clothing forums, when it comes to suits. He wrote a book, published recently, called "The Suit" about, well, suits, and based on the format and language used in the "The Prince." under a pseudonym "Nicolas Antogiovanni" or something like that. Very clever guy.
post #38 of 38
Linkey for The Suit. Manton is a knowledgeable fellow. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/006...e=UTF8&s=books
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