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post #1861 of 2394
You will never use 2gb.
post #1862 of 2394
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Originally Posted by BrianVarick View Post

The only reason I am leaning towards not upgrading to a smart phone is the fact that verizon no longer has an unlimited data plan. Does anyone have experience with how far 2gb goes and whether or not it would be a hassle staying under that threshold?

It's very easy to stay under 2GB as long as you're not tethering a laptop and streaming video.
post #1863 of 2394
It's not so bad, and I'm a heavy user. As long as you have wifi and make it a point to enable it when you are downloading apps and streaming you'll be fine.

Just pay attention to streaming. There are apps for whatever carrier you are on that will allow you to easily monitor bandwidth.

Most people who go over the cap I know do it the first month because they are going app crazy over the 3g connection, or decide to stream Netflix for hours every day w/o wifi.
post #1864 of 2394
I have mixed feelings on the 2Gig a month cap. On one hand, I have always told the vast majority of people to not worry about it. Hardly anyone is going to get close to going over that cap. More so if you have a Wi-Fi network at home and have your phone set to automatically log onto it when in range. Most people check email, play some games and web surf. No way you will pass 2 gigs doing that. Even with some light streaming over Netflix it's hard.

Case in point, I am a very heavy user. Still grandfathered into "unlimited" on ATT. I think I have passed 2 gigs only three times in my whole experience with an iPhone. The most I ever used was around 2.5 gigs. It's a lot of data to consume on a cell phone. If I was on the 2 gig plan, I would end up paying less overall even if I had to buy some extra gigs for those few months. The math just works out that way.

So why am I keeping my grandfathered unlimited plan? There is going to be a day when this does matter. The carriers know this. They are not stupid and it's why they went ahead and placed the caps now. Get everyone used to caps when it doesn't matter. Yet, this will change. As we move towards the future and more heavy data usage becomes the norm. Constant syncing of data over the cloud and high res streaming will be everyday experiences. Content will be constantly pushed to our devices on the go. All of this will consume a lot of data. I can easily see a time in the next 3 to 5 years when 2 gigs won't be enough and everyone will be faced with the constant choice on having to buy more data or not. Carriers are ready and waiting for this day. It's going to equal big profits for them.

Yet, non of this really matters to the guy asking the question. If he wants a smart phone he either has to go with Sprint for unlimited or sign up for a another carrier with caps. The choice is no longer there.

So what do I recommend? Pick a carrier and get a smart phone. Not worth really worrying about now. The future is still a ways out there and I wouldn't be surprised if the carriers have to start adapting to the users instead of the other way around. Otherwise, there are going to be a lot of upset people who suddenly realized they were swindled.

Having a smart phone, like the iPhone, is a very rewarding experience. Even life changing in many ways. Just go for it.
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Originally Posted by JMRouse View Post

I have mixed feelings on the 2Gig a month cap. On one hand, I have always told the vast majority of people to not worry about it. Hardly anyone is going to get close to going over that cap. More so if you have a Wi-Fi network at home and have your phone set to automatically log onto it when in range. Most people check email, play some games and web surf. No way you will pass 2 gigs doing that. Even with some light streaming over Netflix it's hard.
Case in point, I am a very heavy user. Still grandfathered into "unlimited" on ATT. I think I have passed 2 gigs only three times in my whole experience with an iPhone. The most I ever used was around 2.5 gigs. It's a lot of data to consume on a cell phone. If I was on the 2 gig plan, I would end up paying less overall even if I had to buy some extra gigs for those few months. The math just works out that way.
So why am I keeping my grandfathered unlimited plan? There is going to be a day when this does matter. The carriers know this. They are not stupid and it's why they went ahead and placed the caps now. Get everyone used to caps when it doesn't matter. Yet, this will change. As we move towards the future and more heavy data usage becomes the norm. Constant syncing of data over the cloud and high res streaming will be everyday experiences. Content will be constantly pushed to our devices on the go. All of this will consume a lot of data. I can easily see a time in the next 3 to 5 years when 2 gigs won't be enough and everyone will be faced with the constant choice on having to buy more data or not. Carriers are ready and waiting for this day. It's going to equal big profits for them.
Yet, non of this really matters to the guy asking the question. If he wants a smart phone he either has to go with Sprint for unlimited or sign up for a another carrier with caps. The choice is no longer there.
So what do I recommend? Pick a carrier and get a smart phone. Not worth really worrying about now. The future is still a ways out there and I wouldn't be surprised if the carriers have to start adapting to the users instead of the other way around. Otherwise, there are going to be a lot of upset people who suddenly realized they were swindled.
Having a smart phone, like the iPhone, is a very rewarding experience. Even life changing in many ways. Just go for it.


Verizon tells us to tell our customers that 97% of people don't use over 2 GBs of data. I'm not sure where they got that figure from, but I would say most people I interact with don't use their phone to its full potential, so no, they don't go over 2 GBs. That being said, JMRouse makes a good point. Going forward the standards are becoming things like wireless syncing (iCloud, Google apps) so even now we're all starting to use more data. Granted, maybe it won't cause a huge spike, but carriers are pushing plans like "4G"/LTE with "10x faster" data speeds so you can STREAM and DOWNLOAD faster. As in go over your cap faster. Sneaky sneaky.

Oh, and once you get a smartphone you'll never want to go back. Trust us.
post #1866 of 2394
I wouldn't be surprised at all if 99% of people don't hit 2 gigs. In fact, I bet most don't even hit a gig. That will change over time, but for now 2 gigs is more then enough for the majority.
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Lookin good for tomorrow. We'll see...
post #1868 of 2394
Is this the "another old man with a question about newfangled technology" thread?

In the old days, when I carried a CrackBerry, I got emails on the phone, but they also stayed on my MacBook Pro in the Mail account.
Now, with my iPhone 4S, the mail comes through to the phone fine, but I never get the messages on my laptop. I'd like them to show up both places, using the laptop as sort of an archive.

I thought I had fixed it by switching the gMail accounts I use from IMAP to POP, but that doesn't seem to be the answer.

Any of you young bucks able to help an old cogger here?
post #1869 of 2394
That sounds like an iPhone setting more than a gmail one. Not sure what the setting is but you want the phone to retrieve the message while leaving the original copy in your inbox. Check the mail settings.
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Originally Posted by Dakota rube View Post

Is this the "another old man with a question about newfangled technology" thread?

In the old days, when I carried a CrackBerry, I got emails on the phone, but they also stayed on my MacBook Pro in the Mail account.
Now, with my iPhone 4S, the mail comes through to the phone fine, but I never get the messages on my laptop. I'd like them to show up both places, using the laptop as sort of an archive.

I thought I had fixed it by switching the gMail accounts I use from IMAP to POP, but that doesn't seem to be the answer.

Any of you young bucks able to help an old cogger here?

Set up Gmail as an Exchange account: http://www.google.com/support/mobile/bin/answer.py?answer=138740
post #1871 of 2394
I will have to think about it. There are a couple times a week when I would be streaming netflix over 3g to kill time and I'm not sure how far that will go.
post #1872 of 2394
Carriers will have a big problem if people start gettting $1000 bills for going over their data plans thanks to the quicker 4g and photostream crap. One thing I miss about my Nokia N8 is that it allowed for unlimited data.
post #1873 of 2394
I still have the unlimited Verizon plan at $29.99 and just extended it when I got the iPhone. Wonder how long I'll be able to keep that going.
post #1874 of 2394
I heard a rumor that Verizon has throttled its grandfathered unlimited customers. Anyone here in that camp care to verify or shoot that rumor down for me?
post #1875 of 2394
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Originally Posted by javyn View Post

I heard a rumor that Verizon has throttled its grandfathered unlimited customers. Anyone here in that camp care to verify or shoot that rumor down for me?

"Verizon Wireless strives to provide customers the best experience when using our network, a shared resource among tens of millions of customers. To help achieve this, if you use an extraordinary amount of data and fall within the top 5% of Verizon Wireless data users we may reduce your data throughput speeds periodically for the remainder of your then current and immediately following billing cycle to ensure high quality network performance for other users at locations and times of peak demand. Our proactive management of the Verizon Wireless
network is designed to ensure that the remaining 95% of data customers aren't negatively affected by the inordinate data consumption of just a few users."

Should be in the terms & conditions somewhere...
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