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post #31 of 39
What's the main beef with doping? If it's just a matter of making sure everyone operates by the same rules, that makes sense, but maybe it would make more sense to just eliminate the rule. It would be fairer, actually, because the current system is so labor intensive and favors the athletes who can cheat the best.

Or on the other hand is the main beef is that doping somehow fundamentally invalidates the whole nature of competition? This argument I don't quite understand because I'm not convinced that 'doping' is really any different from athletes using high-tech equipment, or vitamins, or expertly designed nutritional regimens, or state-of-the-art weight-training programs.
post #32 of 39
I had that argument with someone during the Congressional hearings into steroids in baseball, actually. If people want their sports to remain completely "natural", then okay. But I'm not really sure what "natural" is supposed to mean, and I don't see how creatine would be natural where steroids wouldn't be, for instance. Or for that matter, protein powder. At any rate, I argued (not sure I believe it, but it was fun to play devil's advocate) that the only supplements that should be illegal within the game are those that are *so* effective that they actually "break" the game. I.e. if they gave someone such an advantage that the rules of the game became insufficient to make the game competitive. After all, it would make the game more fun to watch!
post #33 of 39
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Leave it to The Onion to bring this whole thing home:

post #34 of 39
Uh oh - B sample tested positive for high testosterone as well. Landis is out as champ, fired by his team and will likely be suspended from cycling.

If you're going to do it, at least come up with a decent excuse. Everyone knows that alcohol lowers testosterone and increases estrogen - that's why champion bodybuilders don't drink leading up to competitions. And the "dehydration" theory - give me a break.
post #35 of 39
meh, whatever. give me a good head-butting cyclist, then i'll watch the sport.
post #36 of 39
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Originally Posted by Bradford
Uh oh - B sample tested positive for high testosterone as well. Landis is out as champ, fired by his team and will likely be suspended from cycling.

If you're going to do it, at least come up with a decent excuse. Everyone knows that alcohol lowers testosterone and increases estrogen - that's why champion bodybuilders don't drink leading up to competitions. And the "dehydration" theory - give me a break.

but everyone else is doping too! does the second place guy deserve to be the champion because he's better at not getting caught?
post #37 of 39
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but everyone else is doping too! does the second place guy deserve to be the champion because he's better at not getting caught?
Perhaps this is what cycling has come to.
post #38 of 39
This will be remembered as the stupidest Tour de France in history. First they removed all the, allegedly blood doped, best cyclers (Basso, Ulrich...). Then, most of the audience was chuncked out by the world cup with france going to the final. Last, the winner is doped, and the second will won the race because he was able to get away with a 30 minutes lead in a routine stage where nobody payed attention to him or considered him a threat after his poor performance during the pyrenean stages. Brilliant.

!luc
post #39 of 39
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Originally Posted by matadorpoeta
but everyone else is doping too! does the second place guy deserve to be the champion because he's better at not getting caught?

Number two apparently just got caught. What now?
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