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post #1 of 35
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inspired by the engineering hall rant thread

currently studying my mechanical engineering degree right now and the description in the engineering hall rant thread is spot on with what ive experienced. i have worked with 2 fortune 100 companies and a govt agency for internships and the feeling i get is that most of my fellow engineering interns/coworkers is that they dont lead very engaging lives and are socially inept, and a hollister button up or short sleeve button up is considered dressy. i cant really stand it...so instead of switching out of my major, im thinking of entering the management consulting field and getting my mba afterwards and enter some project management position. how doable is getting in a top 3 firm with my major and an average gpa (~3.3 from gatech) any consultants here want to give me some insight on the work they do? i heard its stressful and turnaround is very high. did you enjoy your work or do you get tired of it quickly?
post #2 of 35
Go Jackets! (Just want to show some Yellow Jackets love. I'm not a consultant, so I can't help you. Good luck.)
post #3 of 35
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appreciate the love. jackets are gonna be pretty sick this fall. help plz
post #4 of 35
Depends on what you mean by top 3. If that is the bcg, Bain, McKinsey crowd, I would say low low low chance. If it's the big 4 + IBM, I'd say you are in the right range. All really depend on your goal.
post #5 of 35
Btw, I went to school down the st from you at Emory... Go atl!!
post #6 of 35
oh lol
post #7 of 35
interview offers at the top 3 are made almost entirely as a function of school eliteness, gpa, and sat scores. unfortunately, you are seriously lacking in at least two of those departments. sucks, but that's just how it is.
post #8 of 35
Management consulting is one of the finance-related fields that places more emphasis on GPA and school prestige, at least at entry-level positions. From what I've heard, it's very difficult to land an undergraduate offer at M/B/B without a 3.7+, unless your dad's an MD or something. With that being said, it's definitely possible if you raise that GPA and network your ass off, but I'd say you're right in the range for other great firms like Deloitte/Booz/Monitor/etc. I was going to pursue management consulting as a career until I realized that my GPA is far too low. Oh well.
post #9 of 35
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does it matter that im in engineering? i usually hear that a mediocre engineering gpa is considered high on other scales...i mean deans list at tech is like a 2.9. i hear about mckinsey coming to career fairs a good amount at our school, but i am always away from school that semester that they come, so does that make us a target school?
post #10 of 35
McKinsey is kind of whimsical, but usually they're looking for 3.9 at HPY or 3.95+ at other schools. BCG and Bain don't require quite as much. TBH I'd put your chances (without connections and going through the entire interview process) at 1/1000 at best.
post #11 of 35
I had a slightly higher GPA than you from a top school known for not inflating grades much. Campus was recruited by bain, bcg, etc.

I couldn't even get them to talk to me. It probably also had something to do with the fact that I wasn't super interested in the positions (I didn't do the whole networking thing and stuff) but I got interviews with lots of *other* companies that I had very little interest in.

That being said, is it really the fact that your fellow engineers can't dress themselves that is driving you away? Isn't the standard engineer path for people who want an MBA something more along the lines of working as an engineer at a large company to get industry experience so that you know what you are talking about once you get your MBA? If you are still interested in engineering and you go work at bcg for a few years before getting an MBA and a job that has engineer underlings, you will just look like one of those total tool-bag MBAs who has no idea whats going on. Sure...you got an undergrad engineering degree 5 years ago and then did exactly zero real work with it--but now you have a "management" degree so it should be ok right?

Of course, if you really have no interest in actual engineering anymore...it may be to late to change your major (which is essentially an undergrad pre-professional program) in which case the quantitative side of finance and consulting often love hiring engineers/physicists/mathemeticians
post #12 of 35
Thread Starter 
good stuff so far guys

in all seriousness, my goal after school is to be in a high level management position. it seems like m. consulting would be the fastest route there. working in a corporate environment is turning me off to the engineer lifestyle so now i am losing interest. i wouldnt mind working in the industry after i grad for a couple of years and then looking at management consulting again. all in all, i dont want to be working for a company for 10 years and only worked up to a section manager. im too locked into my major to change so maybe management consulting would be the best route.
post #13 of 35
Agree with most of what has been already said. Engineering, as a discipline, is just as good as any other to get an MC job. But as pointed out, for a Business Analyst (post-undergrad) position, you need to be from a top - 5 /10 school (discipline less important) with a very strong GPA. Your other alternative would be to get a job at a Tier 2 consulting firm (Deloitte, etc). Do well there, and get your MBA from a TOP 5 B School after working 3 yrs. The chances of landing an Associate job at McKinsey, BCG, Bain will be much higher then. Finally, I don't think networking will help you land a job. If your dad or some acquantance is a big shot, he might be able to get you interviewed. After that, its all about how your perform in the interview. I recall one situation when our office MD asked us to interview the son of the CEO of our offices largest client. We were explicitly insutructed by him not to cut the kid any slack just because he was the son of an important client. The guy didn't make it past the first round. Incidentally, one of the start Partners on our office was actually the nephew of another important client. The guy was brilliant though and he would have been successful even if he had no family connections. I speak from experience at one of the M,B,B firms. Not sure how things are in the other 2.
post #14 of 35
Look outside Top 3. Top 10 has a lot of good companies.

I know people from G Tech that did work at IBM, so there is plenty of precedent for you. 3.3 not so hot, but it's engineering so maybe they will understand.
post #15 of 35
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i still have 4 more semesters to bring it up, so maybe somewhere in the 3.4 range hopefully. what other factors can help my m.consulting resume? can good couple of years work experience in the industry outweigh a bad gpa? maybe my topic should be what other jobs can i do without going into grad school with my ME degree since i want to avoid the engineer corporate life.
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