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god sometimes i'm glad i'm married.

(wait a minute, that didn't come out right.)
post #32 of 106
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Originally Posted by Steve B.
Hence my question why does he want a virgin when he has admitted to sexual activity hisownself???

Some people just like to teach.
post #33 of 106
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Originally Posted by Quirk
Some people just like to teach.
Does this mean we need a "Dirk Diggler" adaptation of the smiley?
post #34 of 106
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Originally Posted by Tokyo Slim
Your ad reads:
Seeking - Kind, Wholesome, Christian girl with ventricular hypertrophy. Hymen intact.

Might snag yourself a virginal Christian pre-med...

genius. but if it works, you can never say you gave me that line.
post #35 of 106
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Out of curiosity, do you hold women to higher standards than yourself?

i don't know that i would use the word 'standards.' i'm not looking for the female version of me, and i find myself attracted to women who listen to their conscience more than i do. (one of us has to, right?)
post #36 of 106
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Originally Posted by Steve B.
Umm- here's how I remember it. Anyone feel free to correct me if I get it wrong.

Somehow the topic came up in (of course) a thread pertaining to something else altogether. MP exhorted us all to meditate (IMO laudable) and eschew masturbation (IMO not so laudable) as sex therefrom greatly improved. Hence my question why does he want a virgin when he has admitted to sexual activity hisownself???

i don't see the contradiction. men have always preferred 'less experienced' women.
post #37 of 106
It's not so much a contradiction as a double standard. Premarital sexual activity is to be tolerated among men but it is undesirable among women. I don't see that as a tenable position.
post #38 of 106
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Originally Posted by dah328
It's not so much a contradiction as a double standard. Premarital sexual activity is to be tolerated among men but it is undesirable among women. I don't see that as a tenable position.

Most people tolerate certain language and conduct from a man that they wouldn't from a woman. Technically, its a double standard, but I don't think there's anything wrong with that. Men and women are just different -- it doesn't mean they can't be considered equals in the really important ways.
post #39 of 106
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i don't see the contradiction. men have always preferred 'less experienced' women.

I don't.

And I think it's a double standard.

And how do you know you'd be sexually compatible? The two main causes for divorce are money and sex, in that order.
post #40 of 106
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Originally Posted by dah328
It's not so much a contradiction as a double standard. Premarital sexual activity is to be tolerated among men but it is undesirable among women. I don't see that as a tenable position.

Well put.
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jill, thank you for the advice.
post #42 of 106
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Originally Posted by Steve B.
I don't.

And I think it's a double standard.

And how do you know you'd be sexually compatible? The two main causes for divorce are money and sex, in that order.

whether or not it's a double standard is not an issue. a person does not control who/what they are attracted to. if a man feels more of an attraction toward virgins, or hookers, that is his perogative. there is no right or wrong to this.

also, as an experienced man of the world, you must understand that while the surface reasons may be money and sex, couples break up for much deeper reasons than that. it is resentment and fear which affects people's desire for money and their sexual relationships with one another.
post #43 of 106
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Originally Posted by matadorpoeta
whether or not it's a double standard is not an issue. a person does not control who/what they are attracted to. if a man feels more of an attraction toward virgins, or hookers, that is his perogative. there is no right or wrong to this.
The reasoning for justifying that kind of attraction is faulty. There is, of course, right and wrong in what attracts a man and it is most certainly not his prerogative to act on any such attraction. For example, acting on pedophiliac attractions is against the law and it is generally frowned upon to act on attractions to married people. One thing that is supposed to separate men from animals is that we are not slaves to our appetites. Because of that, you cannot summarily dismiss the matter of the double standard.

In any case, I think this will be a moot point as most of the women today who meet your criteria are going to have equally stringent criteria of their own.
post #44 of 106
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The reasoning for justifying that kind of attraction is faulty. There is, of course, right and wrong in what attracts a man and it is most certainly not his prerogative to act on any such attraction. For example, acting on pedophiliac attractions is against the law and it is generally frowned upon to act on attractions to married people. One thing that is supposed to separate men from animals is that we are not slaves to our appetites. Because of that, you cannot summarily dismiss the matter of the double standard.
you haven't explained what is wrong with my desire for a virgin. explain that first, then you can make your argument.

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In any case, I think this will be a moot point as most of the women today who meet your criteria are going to have equally stringent criteria of their own.
in my experience the double standard is held by both men and women.
post #45 of 106
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Originally Posted by dah328
The reasoning for justifying that kind of attraction is faulty. There is, of course, right and wrong in what attracts a man and it is most certainly not his prerogative to act on any such attraction. For example, acting on pedophiliac attractions is against the law and it is generally frowned upon to act on attractions to married people. One thing that is supposed to separate men from animals is that we are not slaves to our appetites. Because of that, you cannot summarily dismiss the matter of the double standard.

In any case, I think this will be a moot point as most of the women today who meet your criteria are going to have equally stringent criteria of their own.
Isn't this a bit extreme? Sure, there's a bit of a double standard there. People can have different views about whether or not that's "bad". But insinuating that it's akin to pedophilia is just absurd. Should we conclude from your post that every relationship you have had is with someone for whom you felt no instinctual attraction, because you eschew such "animal" appetites?
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