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post #1 of 49
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I work in a call center doing outside sales. The pay is insulting (~$15/hr after commission), everyone in my department is on the verge of quitting or going on a murderous rampage every single day, turnover is through the roof, and management shits on and belittles us because we are peons that can be replaced at a moments notice. Girls in my department talk about how they cry before their shift, and I lay in bed at night unable to sleep due to anxiety about the 10 hours of non-stop stress that awaits me in the morning.

Things have gotten drastically worse over the past few months as business has exploded, but my department has fired/transferred 40% of it's employees and my work volume has roughly doubled (with no additional compensation) and we've been told flat-out that 'things will get worse before they ever get better." I literally cant take one more day of this shit.

Im thinking about using my remaining 100-something hours of paid-time-off by calling in sick for a few days, then claiming to go on a trip, returning to work only long enough to collect my last direct deposit, then quitting. This will cause significant problems for the company, at least in the short term, as there are not nearly enough employees left to pick up the slack, and it will take at least a few weeks to train a replacement. It will be a thinly-veiled 'fuck you' to management. It will also allow me time to search for a new job. I havent started the job search yet, but I have a couple of initial leads. I figure it cant be too hard to find a job that pays the same or more, even in this job market.

Losing the paycheck/benefits will be unfortunate, but my main concern is whether or not this move will hurt my marketability to other employers. My current company is a pretty small, with no connections to any company or even industry I would be interested in, but Im afraid a potential employer might contact my current employer to ask about me. Is this a legitimate concern? Does this happen? Hearing that I flaked out and quit one day wouldnt help me at all. Oddly enough, I know a few people who were fired from my company (not laid off, but actually fired with cause) and had no problem finding employment.

So should I man the fuck up and risk killing myself and/or others by staying with my company until I find new employment, or should I peace the fuck out and spend a few weeks/months looking for a job and not hating my life?
post #2 of 49
Peace da fuck out!
And then update what happened with a new post!
post #3 of 49
The real question is why are you such a pussy you can't handle some dickhead call center bosses?
post #4 of 49
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Cavalier View Post
The real question is why are you such a pussy you can't handle some dickhead call center bosses?

Its not them; it's the work volume, belligerent/ignorant/condescending customers, and shit pay that I cant deal with.
post #5 of 49
just leave
post #6 of 49
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Originally Posted by BBSLM View Post
Its not them; it's the work volume, belligerent/ignorant/condescending customers, and shit pay that I cant deal with.

Fair enough
post #7 of 49
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Originally Posted by acidboy View Post
just leave
This.
post #8 of 49
They can't shit talk you. They'd have a nice lawsuit on their hands if they tried that. Continue to work hard and just start looking for a new job.
post #9 of 49
Everyone know that telesales work is tough and turnover is very high. No one will judge you for not making a career out of it and staying for ten years. On the other hand, if you do this every couple of months...
post #10 of 49
I would always be hesitant about not giving notice, hell, I gave Arby's 2 week's notice back in high school when I was going to college, but if you don't intend on ever working in the field again and the company treats you like crap then don't feel bad about leaving them high and dry.

On a related note, everyone hates Call Center people because you are incompetent and never solve the problems we're calling about. Don't go through your script line by line and tell me to unplug and then plug my router back in, I've already tried that before calling you asshole. If you effing put me on hold in the hopes that I'll hang up instead of getting credit for that "additional fee" your shitty company is trying to sneak over on me I'll effing burn your corporate headquarters down. I hope meteorites crush your place of business and kill everyone inside (the day after YOU leave, of course).
post #11 of 49
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Originally Posted by lbcgav View Post
They can't shit talk you. They'd have a nice lawsuit on their hands if they tried that. Continue to work hard and just start looking for a new job.
Im sure it varies by state, but any idea what they can say?
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Originally Posted by EL72 View Post
Everyone know that telesales work is tough and turnover is very high. No one will judge you for not making a career out of it and staying for ten years. On the other hand, if you do this every couple of months...
I kinda thought that. Ive been there for 2 years as of last month. It would still be nice to be able to say Im still with the company while interviewing with others instead of having to explain why Im not.
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Originally Posted by harvey_birdman View Post
On a related note, everyone hates Call Center people because you are incompetent and never solve the problems we're calling about. Don't go through your script line by line and tell me to unplug and then plug my router back in, I've already tried that before calling you asshole. If you effing put me on hold in the hopes that I'll hang up instead of getting credit for that "additional fee" your shitty company is trying to sneak over on me I'll effing burn your corporate headquarters down. I hope meteorites crush your place of business and kill everyone inside (the day after YOU leave, of course).
True. But, as Ive learned on this job, the overwhelming majority of humanity, or at least our customer base, are intolerable cunts who I would pay money to watch get curb-stomped. If you can't differentiate between a cocksucker who does cocksucky things, and an innocent soul who happens to work for an inherently cocksucky company but has otherwise not provided a reason for you to believe they are also a cocksucker, you deserve to die. Dont be a dick; I didnt personally overcharge your account - some other asshole who will never have to talk to you or take responsibility for doing so did. Even before I had this shitty job I understood this. BTW, please burn our headquarters down. My tiny cubicle is close to a door; I will make it out.
post #12 of 49
Um, find a job first then quit. And you should give 2 weeks notice, during which time you can dick around and put in near 0 effort and then use your vacation/sick days if you have them.
post #13 of 49
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Originally Posted by BBSLM View Post
I work in a call center doing outside sales. The pay is insulting (~$15/hr after commission), everyone in my department is on the verge of quitting or going on a murderous rampage every single day, turnover is through the roof, and management shits on and belittles us because we are peons that can be replaced at a moments notice. Girls in my department talk about how they cry before their shift, and I lay in bed at night unable to sleep due to anxiety about the 10 hours of non-stop stress that awaits me in the morning.

Things have gotten drastically worse over the past few months as business has exploded, but my department has fired/transferred 40% of it's employees and my work volume has roughly doubled (with no additional compensation) and we've been told flat-out that 'things will get worse before they ever get better." I literally cant take one more day of this shit.

Im thinking about using my remaining 100-something hours of paid-time-off by calling in sick for a few days, then claiming to go on a trip, returning to work only long enough to collect my last direct deposit, then quitting. This will cause significant problems for the company, at least in the short term, as there are not nearly enough employees left to pick up the slack, and it will take at least a few weeks to train a replacement. It will be a thinly-veiled 'fuck you' to management. It will also allow me time to search for a new job. I havent started the job search yet, but I have a couple of initial leads. I figure it cant be too hard to find a job that pays the same or more, even in this job market.

Losing the paycheck/benefits will be unfortunate, but my main concern is whether or not this move will hurt my marketability to other employers. My current company is a pretty small, with no connections to any company or even industry I would be interested in, but Im afraid a potential employer might contact my current employer to ask about me. Is this a legitimate concern? Does this happen? Hearing that I flaked out and quit one day wouldnt help me at all. Oddly enough, I know a few people who were fired from my company (not laid off, but actually fired with cause) and had no problem finding employment.

So should I man the fuck up and risk killing myself and/or others by staying with my company until I find new employment, or should I peace the fuck out and spend a few weeks/months looking for a job and not hating my life?

Why not find a new job while you are at that shithole? Can you quit on a moments notice and survive without other additional income? If so, then you could do it. If not, then don't leave until you have other prospects secured.

I won't feel bad about leaving the company in a lurch, i'd feel bad for the other employees suffering thanks to your abandoning them. YOu don't really owe them anything, though, and most will probably wish they could follow you out the door.
post #14 of 49
fuck you, fuck you, fuck you, you're cool, fuck you, I'm out.
post #15 of 49
go out gracefully, whether you have a new job or not. Don't piss people off, don't burn bridges, just move on quietly. Yes, people in your career will reference check you. At later points in your career, you may have a falling out with a different employer, and then you will have two previous bosses with nothing nice to say about you. The world is a small place, the coworkers you dump your workload on for your last 100 hours or whatever may resurface years later in new roles - hell, clients even - and make your life suck then...all that stuff is quite possible and indeed quite likely. In my own career, I have seen former colleagues pop up as clients, I have seen former editors show up as clients, I have seen former clients show up as analysts, I have had clients take my company with them when they change jobs, I have had clients change jobs and lose the account accordingly, I have seen clients fired and been bundled in as part of the firing, I have seen colleagues turn up as journalists and journalists turn up as colleagues, I have helped ex bosses find new jobs and new jobs find new people and so on. That is just reputation management and recognition that It's A Small World After All. This is a situation within your control, and you should manage it accordingly. There is no reason to make enemies here, and no benefit in doing so for yourself, your current company, your current colleagues or your future career path. Now, you can't make an omelet without breaking a few eggs, absolutely, but this is not a time when you are cooking omelets. As such, don't make enemies over your emotions now. In 10 years you will look back at this job, have forgotten the anger and remember only that you didn't like it, but that it toughened you up/taught you to persevere/manage difficult clients/keep calm under fire/whatever. Either find a new role and get out gracefully. Or get out gracefully and find a new role.
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