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post #16 of 38
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Originally Posted by iammatt
JuIt is incredible how much patience people around here have.

I guess everyone's trying to be "gentlemanly"

but seriously...
post #17 of 38
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Originally Posted by josepidal
http://www.sierratradingpost.com/pro...x?baseno=57234

How are these? Are these strictly for outdoors/sports gloves, or are they fine for walking around on ordinary days? I have no idea how to judge, from my inexperience, how padded padded is. Thanks.
They are really sports gloves. That's not to say you won't see people walking around in them on a cold day - just as you'll see people walking around in ski jackets, etc., but if you're looking for something more versatile you can do better.
post #18 of 38
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Originally Posted by iammatt
Just go to a store in Boston and buy some freaking gloves. It is not a difficult task. Neither is buying a scarf.

It is incredible how much patience people around here have.
Dude, what's your problem? Picking a pair of shoes ain't rocket science either, but people will dither and babble on about it for days here. Obviously, he feels a bit at sea moving to an entirely different environment - as many people would - and is looking for some advice. Isn't that what the board is for? It's not like -- well, at least I'm assuming this to be the case -- somebody is forcing you to read every thread.
post #19 of 38
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by lawyerdad
They are really sports gloves. That's not to say you won't see people walking around in them on a cold day - just as you'll see people walking around in ski jackets, etc., but if you're looking for something more versatile you can do better.
Thanks for the save, and for proving to me that I can't quite tell what a sports glove is.
post #20 of 38
Look at the chester Jeffries website, even if you don't order from there. It will give you a good overview of types:

http://www.desertstar.co.uk/chesterjefferies/index.htm

And for god's sakes, don't spend a lot of money on these gloves (or the scarf). One winter is not a big deal, and the funds could surely be better spent on something (Shoes!) you can still use 9 months from now.
post #21 of 38
NP. If they're identified as "ski gloves" they're probably not what you're looking for (although they probably will be warm). While I'm not enthusiastically endorsing any of these specifically, you probably want something that looks a bit more like one of these:






post #22 of 38
The advice iammatt gave was good. Go to a store, shop around, try them on for fit, and teach yourself what is and isn't padded/warm/sporty. You will have a cuople months time before you will even need gloves and other winter wear. Some things you have to experience yourself. Some decisions you have to make yourself, too. By paying too much attention to what others think and comapartively little to what you think, you have ended up with some bad results. I say this in regard to clothing but the perils of that approach extend far beyond suits, shoes, and gloves.
post #23 of 38
Thread Starter 
Lawyerdad: Thanks. On my last trip, I did try on gloves at a Filene's in Washington and picked up a lined leather number (made in the Philippines for crying out loud) for $20 that looked pretty much like the second one.

My problem was they didn't quite feel... warm on some days. I don't know, I thought I was missing something about gloves, and don't want to wait till the dead of winter to find out.
post #24 of 38
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Originally Posted by whoopee
If your hands are hard to fit, consider Chester Jefferies MTM. The quality is very nice for the price.

Whopee: I love you man, but have you EVER just bought ANYTHING? Is there anything you do not have MTM or Bespoke?
post #25 of 38
Bensilver had some nice black ones in the clearance section
post #26 of 38
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Originally Posted by josepidal
Lawyerdad: Thanks. On my last trip, I did try on gloves at a Filene's in Washington and picked up a lined leather number (made in the Philippines for crying out loud) for $20 that looked pretty much like the second one.

My problem was they didn't quite feel... warm on some days. I don't know, I thought I was missing something about gloves, and don't want to wait till the dead of winter to find out.
Well, ski or sport-type gloves, as a rule, are going to keep your hands warmer. The trade-offs are style/aesthetics and bulkiness. To my understanding, gloves basically "work" by creating a small pocket of air around your hand that is warmed by body heat and minimizing the "exchange" of that warmed air with the colder, outside air. Gloves that fit closely at the wrists, in my experience, help a bit in this regard.
post #27 of 38
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Originally Posted by lawyerdad
Dude, what's your problem? Picking a pair of shoes ain't rocket science either, but people will dither and babble on about it for days here. Obviously, he feels a bit at sea moving to an entirely different environment - as many people would - and is looking for some advice. Isn't that what the board is for? It's not like -- well, at least I'm assuming this to be the case -- somebody is forcing you to read every thread.

I sympathize with heismatt. Yes, the board is for advice, and it's for people to exchange ideas. That said, this isn't *some* advice. It's a LOT of advice. And it's not under a general umbrella of "winterwear for a person from the tropics." It's every separate article of winterwear in a separate thread. Is that really necessary? We'll soon be getting questions about shearling boots, flannel-lined trousers and "where in Phillippines can I get 20oz thornproof tweed for cheap but is from a Huddersfield mill".

I do understand that people can have a lot of questions, and I think people are great in helping (and I have asked many questions myself), but it's a deluge of stuff that can, frankly, be found within the archives of the several excellent clothing forums. At what point do we say, "you have to look up some of this stuff on your own" rather than let someone ask question after question and waste everyone's time (instead of using his/her own time to look through the archives) without even trying to get answers on their own?

It IS amazing how much patience people have around here. And believe me, I think it's great that it is so. But I also think a line has been crossed in this specific case; there is too much taking advantage of the collective members' kindness and not enough looking around on their own.

My opinion only, of course.
post #28 of 38
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Originally Posted by josepidal
My problem was they didn't quite feel... warm on some days. I don't know, I thought I was missing something about gloves, and don't want to wait till the dead of winter to find out.

Jose: After seeing those ski gloves, I thought that perhaps this is something you need to know about living in very cold climates (though it likely applies to tropical climes to some extent):

There are constant tradeoffs to be made between looking stylish and being warm. At one extreme, you can wear a parka, ski gloves, hat, sorel boots... and you will be nice and toasty, but you will look like a dufus if you are walking around a major city like NY or Boston. AFAIAC, these accoutrements are only permissible when the temperature drops below -30C and where you're simply in survival mode outside and looking good is not on your mind, which thankfully does not happen too often.

At the other extreme, you can wear your nice EGs, a light topcoat, silk scarf, lamb leather gloves, no hat... and you will look smashing but will freeze your butt off during most winter days. Everyone's tolerance for cold and for looking like a dufus is different, so the trick is to find the right balance that works for you given your own preferences.

My advice to you is to get a nice cashmere scarf, get some leather gloves (not ski gloves!), some boots that will keep your feet warm and dry but still look good and if you feel really cold walking in Boston, go to a ski shop and buy yourself a tuque, neck warmer, ski gloves... the works.
post #29 of 38
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Originally Posted by Earthmover
"where in Phillippines can I get 20oz thornproof tweed for cheap but is from a Huddersfield mill".

Good one!
post #30 of 38
Chester Jeffries MTM. If you do a thread search for gloves, I posted a very short review and a picture of the gloves that I received from them. (I think it was within someone else's glove post.) They're excellent.
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