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post #31 of 45
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Originally Posted by mmkn View Post
It is only clothes, just a fucking hobby, if you will. We are not saving lives here [which I do on a regular basis]. - M
Yes.
post #32 of 45
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Originally Posted by mmkn View Post
Mr. G.,

I appreciate your comments.

This is the first wearing after the jacket has been "finished."

Of course, it's not "done."

Part of the bespoke service is an examination of the jacket after wearing it a while - another "fitting," if you will. This is the essence of bespoke to me, specifying and fittings.

Only fools would conclude anything about a garment based on photos.

I am simply enjoying them.

- M

i understand the process. I would hope that the lining for the jacket sleeves is only basted. and of course there is a lot more pressing to be done.
I agree with an earlier poster that the shoulders seem a bit wide for today's standards. but due to the construction they will hang well.

no tailor wants to shorten a jacket. it is an annoying job. the line from the coat waist is just too long. will the garment look different once it is finished and a photois taken from 10 feet away? sure, but it will still look long.
my point is that before the tailor starts to finish the coat, you should reevaluate the length.
i assume buttonhole will not be cut on the sleeves until after the next fitting.

I will not disparage Mr. Green's reputation, other then saying, I think his pricing is a tad on the high side. I myself am not a fan of the look of this garment.
post #33 of 45
M-- Maybe it's the quarters. Perhaps they need to be more open or a bit more closed. Just for shits & giggles, submit the pic to the Foofed thread to see what he does! Anyways, if the jacket is too long that is a much better scenario than being too short. Bespoke Lobb's No wonder I couldn't figure out what model they are
post #34 of 45
If they are bespoke Lobbs... got any close-ups As for the Sportcoat, it is not my thing, but it seems that the anachronistic aspect of the coat is something that you wanted from it stylistically. So as long as you like it, it is all you. My only peeves are the patch pockets and the closed quarters, especially in conjunction with what appears to be a fairly strong shoulder on the jacket. But once again, that is a stylistic pick. Wear it in good health!
post #35 of 45
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Here.

- M
post #36 of 45
Thank you... those are astonishingly beautiful. No critiques on those!
post #37 of 45
Q for the mmkn: did you have any input on the styling of the jacket?

By style I mean things like shoulder treatment, waist treatment, quarters, buttoning point, lapel width, jacket length, pocket style, drape, etc. - all questions without right answers.

I think there are three things a tailoring house does: styling, fitting ,and constructing. Greene seems to really pride himself on the fit/construction of his garments (which do seem to be to very high standards), but I don't get the sense from his video or the jacket you posted that he has much of a point of view on style.

Contrast this to Huntsman, Anderson & Sheppard, or Rubinacci, all of whom have very distinctive (and tried and tested) house styles.
post #38 of 45
IMO that jacket is a abomination. It may be well made but it's horribly styled. With all the other options like Raph, Logsdail, Greenfield, Chan, Mina, etc. there is just no good reason I can think of to go with Green. Good luck with it and enjoy it in good health.
post #39 of 45
For all those who hate the proportions, just remember that none of us have seen the owner naked. Tailors have to clothe what stands in front of them.

Maybe it's just because I have a long torso and short legs, but the grey jacket doesn't look too long in its finished form. In the fittings, yes-- it goes rather close to the fingertips. But in full context, pretty good. Shortening the sleeves will make the length a little less noticeable in any case.

Lapels are a tad wide, but perhaps complementary to the (very wide and square) shoulders. A little break-in -- and shortened sleeves-- and it should be OK. Not quite my thing, but I'm not the one who has to wear it.
post #40 of 45
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Originally Posted by jamesbond View Post
IMO that jacket is a abomination. It may be well made but it's horribly styled. With all the other options like Raph, Logsdail, Greenfield, Chan, Mina, etc. there is just no good reason I can think of to go with Green. Good luck with it and enjoy it in good health.

+1. I get that you want a 1930's look, but this jacket is nothing like that. I personally believe this doesn't look good.
post #41 of 45
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input . . . house

Jon is bespoke in the truest sense of the word - there are fittings, and one can specify things [with guidance].

My sense of the other houses is that you are getting their sense of design that is handmade [but not homemade].

My wife has been along with me to a few fittings, and she said it best, "Jon's not just giving you his suit, he gives you your suit."

I agree!

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want

When I started, I wanted my suit [fitted to my body and features], but with a relaxed, not trying-too-hard look, and in timeless colors and proportions. Trust me, I would not be making three trips a year to see him if this was not achieved.

I think just his sense of proportions are restrained, like the thirties. Everything else is very specific and refined to today.

Perhaps different photographs and settings could give a better idea of what I consider bespoke at its highest form . . . here, and here.


- M
post #42 of 45
mmkn: would you have any more shots of the Kabbaz shirt?
post #43 of 45
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It is a Giorgio Armani ad from the late 80's or early 90's, I can't remember. I just like how the lighting does this "good twin, evil twin" thing.

- M

Apologies - I should have looked better; lapels are not even the same.

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It always amazes me how certain garments are highly scrutinized to the point of absurdity while others, which are obvious train wrecks, are barely mentioned or noticed.

This is a terrific observation and very true. Allow me to generalize further: I think bigger/higher end names tend to receive substantially more scrutiny. I think both tailor and customer are better off taking that as a compliment.
post #44 of 45
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Originally Posted by Eustace Tilley View Post
shirt?

E I know you have been very curious as to how Alex's shirt fits with photos, but short of having Esther Quek of The Rake prepare the photo shoot and Aldo Fallai take the photos, this amateur photographer nor his wife just cannot do justice to Alex's shirts.

This is how I think a linen [cotton is much harder to make behave] shirt should fit. Renee's shirt, made from scratch, fits like Alex's in the body. Alex's is superior in the sleeves, cuffs, and collar - that is why I mostly wear his shirt with Jon's suits.

- M
post #45 of 45
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Originally Posted by Shirtmaven View Post
the jacket looks long.
otherwise looks fine

agreed
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