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Who makes this?

post #1 of 16
Thread Starter 
Hello all,

Just a question for all the shoe experts out there.

Who makes this shoe. It is the Shipton and Heneage 'Tudor'.



What sort of quality is it and how does it compare to, say, the Trickers Belgrave?

I'm interested in a pair and would love to know what they're like.

Best regards,

Alexander Scriabin
post #2 of 16
I'd also like to know the specific name for that pattern of detailing around the lace of the shoe.
post #3 of 16
Thread Starter 
By the way, just so you know, this shoe is from the Shipton and Heneage GENEVA site.

Cheers
post #4 of 16
The shoes are made either by Alfred Sargent or Crockett Jones.
They are on sale at the shipton france site for around $285 with free shipping, which is a good deal (i think esp if the pair is made by Crockett Jones)
post #5 of 16
I would bet they are C&J, bechgrade level though.
post #6 of 16
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Originally Posted by aportnoy
I would bet they are C&J, bechgrade level though.
Based on the stamped information on the inside of the shoe (you have to look at all the colors to find the good pictures) they are Benchgrade C&J, and a good value at $285 or so...
post #7 of 16
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Originally Posted by designprofessor
I'd also like to know the specific name for that pattern of detailing around the lace of the shoe.

the style is: adelaide semi-brogue. (sic?)

the semibrogue refers to the perforations on the shoe. the adelaide part refers to the leather pattern around the lace.
post #8 of 16
Thread Starter 
Hey guys,

I actually just e-mailed the S&H and the shoes are actually made by Grenson. They have open channel stiching and the man I e-mailed rated them somewhere between C&J hand and bench grades.

Would you pick this shoe over the Trickers 1829 Belgrave?
post #9 of 16
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alexander Scriabin
Hey guys,

I actually just e-mailed the S&H and the shoes are actually made by Grenson. They have open channel stiching and the man I e-mailed rated them somewhere between C&J hand and bench grades.

Would you pick this shoe over the Trickers 1829 Belgrave?

I have a pair of Grenson Masterpieces that I purchased from the Bennies sale that look almost exactly like that shoe but I'm not absolutely sure it's the same model. If so, I would say they are closer to handgrades than benchgrades.
post #10 of 16
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Originally Posted by Alexander Scriabin

Who makes this shoe. It is the Shipton and Heneage 'Tudor'.




Pretty sure this is made by Grenson. It looks like one of the medallion patterns that they use. You can check on pediwear or on the grenson website, if they still have one.

see:

http://www.pediwear.co.uk/detail.php?stock_ID=386
post #11 of 16
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Originally Posted by NoVaguy
Pretty sure this is made by Grenson. It looks like one of the medallion patterns that they use. You can check on pediwear or on the grenson website, if they still have one. see: http://www.pediwear.co.uk/detail.php?stock_ID=386
This one, right? http://www.grenson.co.uk/main.asp?pr...0&categoryid=2 also http://www.pediwear.co.uk/detail.php?stock_ID=373
post #12 of 16

That looks like a different pattern. Focus on the small 4 hole diamond on on the back corner of the pattern in the S&H shoe and my link. The one you linked to has a sweeping curve of small holes instead.
post #13 of 16
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Originally Posted by TomW
Based on the stamped information on the inside of the shoe (you have to look at all the colors to find the good pictures) they are Benchgrade C&J, and a good value at $285 or so...


Took another look at all of the colors on the Shipton sites and they could be made by either grenson or C&J... some pictures (particularly of the black shoes) have what appears to be the Grenson oval with size and style information... some appear to have C&J markings... I've seen the medallion on the brown pair above on C&J shoes.. have a Westminster semi-brogue with exactly that pattern... have never seen it on a Grenson... however the dark brown and black shoes may have a slightly different medallion... the pictures are small and it's hard to tell for sure.
post #14 of 16
I can't seem to find these on the site. Anyone have a link?
post #15 of 16
I thought Shipton's modus operandi was to retain the name of the shoe given by the manufacturer. Doesn't that mean there should be a Grenson Tudor out there?
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