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post #16 of 62
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I'm making my judgement of Gilby from seeing him live. I haven't visited GnR sites to see what those viewers think of him, but I was more than happy with his live performance, and the group I was with didn't complain.
Talk about not fitting in with their image, Dizzy

I don't underestimate the Crue's success. Althought it pretty much died when the 90s rolled around. But I remember Feelgood and Girls and they were kings of the world at that moment. But I have to think that Lee's popularity as a musician has a lot to do with Pam Anderson and that scene. All of sudden everyone reading People Magazine knew that Tommy was a drummer for the Crue, and by adding those that knew Crue he became extremely well known.

Yeah, I don't know what drove Jason to do this. He's richer than a king so it can't be money. Who knows, maybe Jason and the rest want to help a singer who may not make it big on his/her own. However, if that's the case why would they want it to be so American Idol'ish which probably 99% of rock fans find disgusting.

Surprisingly, there are some decent performers in the show. I might pay a small club fee to see a few of them front a band.


ya, but ultimately they chose a very tv friendly bunch. The only one with a unique look is Dylana... remember a few years ago when fashion designers were making grunge cool? Now they've done it with rock... there's this way hairdressers make long hair look, a lot like Gilby Clarke.. it's the ultra-groomed metrosexual rockstar which makes no sense. I still cannot believe that people will play thousands of dollars to look like Axl Rose, Jimmy Page, or Syd Vicious... they were just roll out of bed type of guys.

Again, it's not Gilby's playing that's the problem... he has this very Michael Bolton type thing going on... when he strums chords he does these little gestures which are so cheese... ya Dizzy's awful... in fact, that whole UYI tour was an abortion in a lot of ways (except for the music which was truly great).

I think Newstead lost a bet and had to do this. He's so incredibly nice to everyone, but a guy like him could summon a real singer. They should have gotten Mike Patton or someone like that... most of these people aren't that fantastic singers, there's a few standouts like Dylana but that's it. That hot girl with the black hair who talks back is T E R R I B L E.
post #17 of 62
Hehe, I can't believe she sang 867-5309.

Yeah, if Audioslave can get Cornell and Velvet Revolver can get Scott, then there is no excuse that this group can't get another well groomed frontman/woman. There are plenty out there. Personally I don't think Patton would touch them with a ten foot pole - he'd sniff out their fakeness in a heartbeat. Still he'd be awesome to have fronting them.
post #18 of 62
yeah, why did newstead leave metallica anyway?
post #19 of 62
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Hehe, I can't believe she sang 867-5309. Yeah, if Audioslave can get Cornell and Velvet Revolver can get Scott, then there is no excuse that this group can't get another well groomed frontman/woman. There are plenty out there. Personally I don't think Patton would touch them with a ten foot pole - he'd sniff out their fakeness in a heartbeat. Still he'd be awesome to have fronting them.
yeah but the reality TV talent show business model is one that relies on an assumption that people who vote for the winner end up with some kind of ownership or vested interest in the band, and turn into album buyers. American Idol pulls it off brilliantly. Hiring a singer to front them misses out on this, as well as the paycheck for the TV show, as well as the publicity that the band gets before its formation and first rehearsal session. Whether that happens for Supernova or not remains to be seen, but that is why they just dont pluck out a singer from a now-defunct decent band. As to band member motivations for being there...Newstead - who knows. Gilby just happy someone invited him out, and Tommy Lee would show up to the opening of a window.
post #20 of 62
Newsted left voluntarily. I haven't seen the Metallica documentary, but some say he left to pursue other goals and some say it was because of a fued between him and Hetfield. m@t, I don't know really agree with your theory. Yes, that theory works for nobodies like the American Idol winners - has there even been any success from the 2nd seasons winner? These guys are largely big already in the rock community, they don't need money, they'll get airplay for being "them," and with the success of other "supergroups" they could easily draw a crowd because they would be the next one. I don't know why they are getting their singer this way, but I don't feel it's for your reasons which were well stated. Your last comment is a riot.
post #21 of 62
i'm not watching it at all this year, mostly cause i don't have access to it in this part of the world.

BUT,

i watched Rockstar:INXS religiously last year and the guy who one, J.D. Fortune, is from my hometown. so we were obviously pretty excited when he won.

i thought they were, for the most part, VERY talented. i couldn't even watch a single episode of American Idol because i felt like there was such an enormous level of difference between the actual talents of the contestants on each show.
post #22 of 62
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yeah but the reality TV talent show business model is one that relies on an assumption that people who vote for the winner end up with some kind of ownership or vested interest in the band, and turn into album buyers.

American Idol pulls it off brilliantly.

Hiring a singer to front them misses out on this, as well as the paycheck for the TV show, as well as the publicity that the band gets before its formation and first rehearsal session.

Whether that happens for Supernova or not remains to be seen, but that is why they just dont pluck out a singer from a now-defunct decent band.

As to band member motivations for being there...Newstead - who knows. Gilby just happy someone invited him out, and Tommy Lee would show up to the opening of a window.

so true... he's DJing at some rave 20 minutes from here tonight... and he's DJed in a club in montreal once or twice.
post #23 of 62
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m@t, I don't know really agree with your theory. Yes, that theory works for nobodies like the American Idol winners - has there even been any success from the 2nd seasons winner?

These guys are largely big already in the rock community, they don't need money, they'll get airplay for being "them," and with the success of other "supergroups" they could easily draw a crowd because they would be the next one.
i dunno man, theres a world full of once-we-were-famous exrockers trying to bank on former successes for future ones.

Slash's Snakepit anyone?

Think the reality model and the audience ownership it encourages shores up the investment for the labels and tour promoters knowing that they are 'big' (even if artificially so) before the band has even formed.
post #24 of 62
You have viable theory, it could definitely work, I doubt it but who knows what will happen.

Velvet Revolver and Audioslave have had platinum albums.
Those are 2 pretty successful supergroups as opposed to the Snakepit's of the bunch. I think the key is to find the right frontman, which these 2 groups obviously did, and didn't Slash try to handle his own lyrics in Snakepit? No wonder it was never big.

If Supernova found someone like Patton, Danzig, someone with a reputation and the goods to back it up they could go platinum. I can't imagine them going platinum with one of these reality show finalists. I think they'll lose a majority of their base audience and the new reality fans won't make up for it. Whereas , bringing in a top frontman would add that frontmans fans, plus some Metallica, some GnR, and some Crue fans. To me this just seems like the obvious way to go and VR and Audioslave have already displayed the winning recipe.
post #25 of 62
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i dunno man, theres a world full of once-we-were-famous exrockers trying to bank on former successes for future ones.

Slash's Snakepit anyone?

Think the reality model and the audience ownership it encourages shores up the investment for the labels and tour promoters knowing that they are 'big' (even if artificially so) before the band has even formed.


Well, that only really had Slash in it, and he wrote the songs (in GnR he was responsible for a lot of the melodies, not lyrics). It's 5 Oclock somewhere still sold quite a bit, don't think it went Platinum but it still did well.
post #26 of 62
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i'm not watching it at all this year, mostly cause i don't have access to it in this part of the world.

BUT,

i watched Rockstar:INXS religiously last year and the guy who one, J.D. Fortune, is from my hometown. so we were obviously pretty excited when he won.

i thought they were, for the most part, VERY talented. i couldn't even watch a single episode of American Idol because i felt like there was such an enormous level of difference between the actual talents of the contestants on each show.

as expected, they got the one the band feels is closest to hutchence vocally and in appearance, imo. the band should've called it: the michael hutchence sing-a-like.
post #27 of 62
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who did they kick out this week? Im up in Hanoi, didnt see it
post #28 of 62
They gave Zayara the boot, and should've canned Patrice at the same time.
Supernova played a song with Dylana fronting them and it didn't sound good IMO.
post #29 of 62
Ran into Lukas Rossi on saturday at a store on melrose, he was behind me waiting to buy some stuff....my fiance and I said "hey" to him and chatted for a minute. Guy definitely stands out even amongst a bunch of other guys that have a similar look going on.
post #30 of 62
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so would you let him front your band Jason?
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