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post #31 of 45
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Originally Posted by db_ggmm View Post
I don't think I'll ever understand the people who show up in these threads to post, "I disagree" when the opinions presented tend to vary a good deal.

Its suppose to be a riddle! I spy something stupid in this thread... Start guessing.
post #32 of 45
for why: nm
post #33 of 45
lift weights and eat at maintenance

don't overeat

you'll get what you want

if you start getting "too big" then cut back on the calories, but don't stop lifting

that's all there is to it
post #34 of 45
Hastur pretty much said it. It's all about eating slightly less than what your body needs. The reason why bodybuilders get bigger is because they work out and eat more than their body actually needs. Not to mention all those weight gainers and stuff.
post #35 of 45
Sounds like Intermittent Fasting would work for you. The recomp setup balances caloric deficit (rest/cardio) days with caloric surplus (training) days to essentially "build muscle and lose fat at the same time." Once you learn how to manipulate calories it becomes very easy to improve body composition while maintaining the same weight.
post #36 of 45
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Originally Posted by BBSLM View Post
The recomp setup balances caloric deficit (rest/cardio) days with caloric surplus (training) days to essentially "build muscle and lose fat at the same time."

Because you body's metabolic systems work on 24-hour cycles?
post #37 of 45
This is generally difficult to do. I managed to gain muscle mass without barely moving in weight, although I didn't really do it intentionally. Basically I ate when I was hungry, which was more because I was hungry more from working out, but didn't actively try to eat more or use supplements. I regard that period as being wasted time because I could had better results in less time. There is no doubt when you start putting on muscles your dimensions are going to change, i.e. weight will go on some areas and off on other, probably on your shoulders and chest, and off your back and waist, so your MTM suits might not fit anyway. I have no MTM (I'm too broke) but I put on 20 lbs and haven't had to change any of clothes or suits (and I don't think they ever fit sloppy before). There is no magic answer here, I'd just say start lifting, and follow what your body tell you. If you find you have moved up 5 lbs, starting adding in the treadmill.
post #38 of 45
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Originally Posted by Pennglock View Post
Because you body's metabolic systems work on 24-hour cycles?

yup. thats exactly why.
post #39 of 45
Try P90x. Most of the after pictures I have seen the guys look ripped, but very lean. Whatever path you take will require a lot of discipline.
post #40 of 45
combination of strength and hypertrophy training

+ deca/test
post #41 of 45
Going to read through these replies. I've been going to the gym 5-6 days a week for years, and am definitely stuck at my current weight and definition, have been for years. Would like to be toned in the chest area, but don't want to put on muscle to the point of changing shirt/pant/etc size. I'd like to be able to go to the gym just a few days a week to maintain.
post #42 of 45
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Originally Posted by ohyoumad View Post
Going to read through these replies. I've been going to the gym 5-6 days a week for years, and am definitely stuck at my current weight and definition, have been for years. Would like to be toned in the chest area, but don't want to put on muscle to the point of changing shirt/pant/etc size. I'd like to be able to go to the gym just a few days a week to maintain.

You simply get toned in chest area only, spot reducing in general does not exist.
post #43 of 45
Don't want to get bigger?
post #44 of 45
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Originally Posted by ghdtpdna View Post
You simply get toned in chest area only, spot reducing in general does not exist.
Well, all "get toned" means is losing fat or gaining muscle, so although he can't spot reduce the fat, he can certainly spot-gain the muscle. But he doesn't want to do that, which means he just has to lose fat.

e: And to the OP, if you only want to lift 2-3 days a week, and don't want to get all bulky, I'd look at strength-focused lifting programs, as opposed to bodybuilding-focused programs.
post #45 of 45
Achieving body recomposition is a really tedious process and requires a lot of meticulous calorie-counting, which may drive you crazy. If you really want to achieve this, a good person to go to would be Martin Berkhan, who does online consulting for various clients. He has in many ways pioneered IF to achieve various goals, particularly body recomposition. Here's his site: www.leangains.com However, a much easier route and less tedious way to go about this would be to bulk/cut in cycles. Bulk for 2 weeks and then cut for 2 week; that way, your weight will remain relatively the same as you change in composition. I'm no expert, but I've had my fair share of meticulous-ness and the latter option makes more sense, esp. if you have other things on your plate.
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