H&S Navy Fresco

S. Able · May 25, 2010

Is 333202 (9oz/10oz) the only navy fresco offered by H&S? I am looking at a remnant trying to determine if this is 333202. I think it may be a bit heavier. Thanks in advance for any input.

Slewfoot · May 25, 2010

I feel like they may have another navy next to it that's darker. Here's my 333202 below which give a good representation of the true color. It's an excellent "bright" dark navy if that makes sense. I believe it's now discontinued so if you want it better get it now. I highly recommend it.

whnay. · May 25, 2010

There are three dark navy fabrics in the crispaire book - numbered one above and below 333202.

Slewfoot · May 25, 2010

Originally Posted by whnay.

There are three dark navy fabrics in the crispaire book - numbered one above and below 333202.

That sounds about right. But 333202 is by the far the best IMHO. The blue is the most distinctive.

whnay. · May 25, 2010

Originally Posted by Slewfoot

That sounds about right. But 333202 is by the far the best IMHO. The blue is the most distinctive.

No I would agree - the others are far to dark - almost black.

S. Able · May 25, 2010

So no one seems to remember them making a heavier fresco?

Slewfoot · May 25, 2010

Originally Posted by S. Able

So no one seems to remember them making a heavier fresco?

I can't reacall to be honest. One or two may have been heavier, but I'm not sure. You can try calling their showroom in New York. I'm sure it'll come up if you Google it.

whnay. · May 25, 2010

The entire crispaire book is 10/11 oz

taxgenius · May 25, 2010

Originally Posted by whnay.

The entire crispaire book is 10/11 oz

Interesting. I would have guessed 9-10oz.

S. Able · May 25, 2010

FWIW, they just told me that 333202 is an end bolt and part of the only book of fresco they sold in recent memory. The confirmed for me that it is a 9/10 oz. So did crispaire replace this old fresco book?

George · May 25, 2010

In the old H&S Crispaire book there were some heavyweight Fresco's at the back of the book, 16oz IIRC.

However, there is a new book out and I'm not sure if these have been continued as I only briefly looked t the book.

Slewfoot · May 25, 2010

Originally Posted by S. Able

FWIW, they just told me that 333202 is an end bolt and part of the only book of fresco they sold in recent memory. The confirmed for me that it is a 9/10 oz. So did crispaire replace this old fresco book?

I believe that 333202 is a more traditional Fresco (like Minnis) and might be a different weight at 9/10oz, but the regular Crispaire items that make up the bulk of the book are 10/11oz. Not 100% on that, but I recall that being the case.

I also heard they are coming out with a new Crispaire book this Spring if they haven't already.

kolecho · May 25, 2010

The old book has both Crispaire and Fresco. The Frescos are made by Minnis, and there are some heavier ones around 13-15oz in the old book.

The new Crispaire book is out. There is no more Fresco in the new book.

Mr. Pink · May 25, 2010

At the very back of the Crispaire book, there used to be maybe four heavier fabrics. They aren't available any longer. My local tailor has an old book and you can see where these were scissored out. I can't remember if they were 13 or 15 oz. Someone told me they were woven by Minnis.

kolecho · May 26, 2010

Originally Posted by Mr. Pink

At the very back of the Crispaire book, there used to be maybe four heavier fabrics. They aren't available any longer. My local tailor has an old book and you can see where these were scissored out. I can't remember if they were 13 or 15 oz. Someone told me they were woven by Minnis.

IIRC they were 13oz, an ounce or so lighter than Minnis' own. Yes, those were done by Minnis and has the same traditional feel as Minnis Fresco.

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