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This is a thread for where to get what, and for comments on particular merchants. I'll add some pics at some point too.

Just some general comments first.

I just got back from my first trip to St. Lawrence Market since moving here; what a great place. The first thing i did before I bought anything was walk around the whole building. I can't help but make some comparisons to what's offered in Montreal. Overall the Jean-Talon/Atwater markets in montreal have more produce, but St. Lawrence has more choice for meat. There's a couple decent cheese shops but I didn't spend enough time there to reach a conclusion of whether they could match the Fromagerie at the JT Market. Haven't made up my mind on other items like high quality EVOO or traditional balsamic. Haven't been to Kensington yet.

A couple things I saw that I hadn't seen in montreal were cream-cheese out of a big container and artisinal butter. I can't say i've ever had anything but philadelphia cream cheese so it'll be interesting to taste the difference, though it does look softer and creamier. I didn't spend as much time as i'd have liked though. My back was killing me so i was anxious to get home. I'll comment more on the cheese shops another day.

Some butchers looked better than others. I wonder how most people go about choosing one vs. the other. I eat a lot of veal, so I will probably make the rounds trying veal from each place, though I don't know if that will give me repeatable results... A couple places offer dry-aged beef. I saw some real angus at one place, as opposed to what businesses attempt to pass off as angus at crappy restaurants. Didn't see any Wagyu. I think another was organic (so $$). What surprised me was that the meat in one place looked like it had been out too long. Either way, there's no shortage of places to get real steaks. I don't think I saw anything cut less than an inch thick, and most were about an inch and a half. I just bought veal scallops and pork tenderloin today though. The area around the Market is really nice too. If my plans change and I do buy a condo in TO some day, i'll have to look hard in that area.

Anyway, the point of the thread is for things that are harder to find.

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Bagels: I started thinking about this when I was looking for bagels. Montreal has the best bagels of any place I've been. I don't know what the hell is so hard about making bagels, but few places seem to do it right (including NY ). Someone recommended St. Urbain bagels in the SLM. It seems like a good call. They're cooked in a brick oven right on the spot, just like i'm used to from montreal. I haven't tried one yet because I ate lunch before shopping and didn't want to gorge myself, but from the texture, size, and weight of the bagels, it looks like they might just be on par with Montreal's better bagels.
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Bagels: I started thinking about this when I was looking for bagels. Montreal has the best bagels of any place I've been. I don't know what the hell is so hard about making bagels, but few places seem to do it right (including NY ). Someone recommended St. Urbain bagels in the SLM. It seems like a good call. They're cooked in a brick oven right on the spot, just like i'm used to from montreal. I haven't tried one yet because I ate lunch before shopping and didn't want to gorge myself, but from the texture, size, and weight of the bagels, it looks like they might just be on par with Montreal's better bagels.

For bagels there are bunch of jewish places along Sheppard between Bayview and Bathurst in North York that are quite good, most of them to the fluffy cream cheese too.
post #3 of 26
I haven't lived in TO for over 15 years but Saturday morning it was a ritual for my family to go there: For meat we always bought at White House; for fish it was Mike's; and for cheese it was Alex farm. Lunch was either a fisherman's stew or a pea-meal bacon sandwich. Downstairs for caviar...

The north market is where you go for produce, just go early on a Saturday in the spring and summer to get the very best.
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I haven't live in TO for over 15 years but Saturday morning it was a ritual for my family to go there: For meat we always bought at White House; for fish it was Mike's; and for cheese it was Alex farm. Lunch was either a fisherman's stew or a pea-meal bacon sandwich. Downstairs for caviar...

The north market is where you go for produce, just go early on a Saturday in the spring and summer to get the very best.

Cool. Is that the other building that looked totally dead? I didn't even bother going in because I didn't see a single person going in or out. I was also a bit tired. Only got 3 hours sleep last night, had a certification exam in the morning, and had been walking around a lot already.

You can still get the peameal sandwiches btw. I was salivating at them but i had already eaten.
post #5 of 26
A whole thread just for food in GTA? How long you been there G33k? damn, did not take long for you to think the universe revolves around TO! P.S. Did you know Conne lives in DC?
post #6 of 26
Does anyone know what the deal with this "gourmet food shop" going up on King West (near Brant or Bathurst, can't remember). I just saw a big sign advertising sandwiches, meat and cheeses.
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A whole thread just for food in GTA? How long you been there G33k? damn, did not take long for you to think the universe revolves around TO! P.S. Did you know Conne lives in DC?
It doesn't revolve around TO. It revolves around me. I just happen to live in TO at this time.
post #8 of 26
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Cool. Is that the other building that looked totally dead? I didn't even bother going in because I didn't see a single person going in or out. I was also a bit tired. Only got 3 hours sleep last night, had a certification exam in the morning, and had been walking around a lot already.

You can still get the peameal sandwiches btw. I was salivating at them but i had already eaten.

The north market I think is only open on Saturdays and it will be absolutely packed (at least that's how I remember it). It's all produce direct from farmers, mostly from the Holland marsh...
post #9 of 26
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^^ Oh ok. Thanks.
post #10 of 26
North Market is not only produce. There is, for instance, a Mennonite sausage maker there, who is quite good
post #11 of 26
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Bagels: I started thinking about this when I was looking for bagels. Montreal has the best bagels of any place I've been. I don't know what the hell is so hard about making bagels, but few places seem to do it right (including NY ). Someone recommended St. Urbain bagels in the SLM. It seems like a good call. They're cooked in a brick oven right on the spot, just like i'm used to from montreal. I haven't tried one yet because I ate lunch before shopping and didn't want to gorge myself, but from the texture, size, and weight of the bagels, it looks like they might just be on par with Montreal's better bagels.

This is a never ending debate, each city has its own style. If you like Montreal bagels, you will probably not like any of the toronto places, totally different, instead of being small, sweet and dense, toronto bagels are bigger, have a chewy , salted crust and depending on where you go very different doughs.

Favourite place in the downtown is Harbord Street Bakery by the UofT campus. Up north try kivas at bathurst and steeles.

As for Shopping:

Dianas on Lawrence has great sea food
Fruit stands on the west side of spadina at dundas for asian fruits
Kensington Market for everything under the sun - cheese, latin american ingredients, butchers, fish mongers, fruit and veggies.
post #12 of 26
anyone ever been to soma, that chocolate place in the distillery? was it any good/
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anyone ever been to soma, that chocolate place in the distillery? was it any good/

I've been and it is pretty good. They have a large variety of hand made chocolates. They have a cocoa grinder and roaster on site as well.
post #14 of 26
yeah the site seems really cool. thing is, gourmet chocolate is always expensive - is the price range acceptable, or...?
post #15 of 26
Most bagels in Toronto are terrible. St. Urbain bagel is one of the few good places. Highly recommended.


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I've been and it is pretty good. They have a large variety of hand made chocolates. They have a cocoa grinder and roaster on site as well.

Do they sell their own manufactured bars, or is it all single-piece? I've not yet found a good place in Toronto that sells their plain dark chocolate bars.
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