The Tie Bar Ties - Page 4
I recently upgraded 2 suits ( one I picked up after Friday - Herringbone Charcoal ) and a blue pinstripe just ordered from L&S (Izzy) in NYC.
I went online saw some good looking colors on the tie bar but was concerned at 15$. Seeing this post and of course doing independent research i targeted Zegna's on ebay and ended up getting 8 zegnas and one lorenzo cana (most used). 3 from IDFNL. :slayer
Beautiful ties from the pics and I am sure I will be happy as they come in over next few weeks saved all my Good ties, purged about 13 older ties that were not good quality and these new purchases colors/styles will pretty much fill out my needs.
Ok so where do peeps buy cufflinks from online? update: liking the kent wang website for cufflinks www.kentwang.com
Edited by rjt65 - 11/6/11 at 6:43am
Anyway, I don't expect high quality, I just hope this will do the trick !
So, already not a great experience. I've since worn the two that I'm keeping. I actually didn't read the mixed reviews in here until after I made the order. My overall impression is that, quality-wise, these are OK-ish at best - definitely lower grade than what I normally wear, and although I own a couple of Brionis and a few Stefano Riccis, most of what I normally wear cost me in the $12-$45 range new. I normally shop for ties at Century 21 in NYC, Nordstrom Rack, Niemann Marcus's discount store and Saks off-5th. These are pretty great places to get good ties at discounted prices, especially when they have sales/coupons on top of the discounted prices. That being the case, I didn't see great value in thetiebar.com ties, except in the designs. Even though I'm not particularly impressed with the silk quality or the overall look of tiebar.com ties, I will admit that there is something to be said for scrolling through hundreds of design patterns and finding exactly or nearly exactly what you were looking for and getting whatever width you want as well. If you really want a broad selection of narrower ties (and I was specifically on the site looking for particular striped patterns that i hadn't been able to find elsewhere, in 2.5 and 3.0 inch sizes) this place could be considered a go-to (if not exactly a godsend). And I don't know about others, but when I'm dealing in slimmer ties, I think you can get away with going lower-end without sacrificing as much in look. I'd really rather not wear a low-end 3.5 or 3.75 inch tie, but with the narrow ties of just about any make, you use smaller knots, don't concern yourself much with dimpling and have a less elegant drape to begin with. So wearing one of these at a narrow width is do-able for me if I happen to really like the pattern.
I found these ties to be comparable in quality to what you get from the Geoffrey Beanes or Perry Ellis Portfolios that you see at discount stores for around $8.99-$11.99. I also recently purchased a couple of ties at clearance prices ($14) from Joseph A Bank's "heritage collection" (their narrower ties) and I thought that the JosAB ties were a bit better. I've seen some comments in here that tiebar.com stuff compares well to ties that cost as much as $75 elsewhere, and I'm kind of stunned by that. Even $75 at full retail puts you at Brooks Brothers level, and I cannot imagine how anybody would think that these ties are as good or even nearly as good as a Brooks Brothers tie. $75 at Saks off 5th gets you near Brioni.
Again, I could be spoiled by all of the discount stores in my area, but I don't know how anybody could say that they're any better in quality than most of what can be had for $15-$35 in other brands, like Behar, Talbot, Battistoni, etc. Heck, Century 21 sells Alteas for $12.95 and those are significantly better quality silk and better-made than tiebar ties. Now, do they sell slim Altea ties there? No. Is the selection of designs on the rack less extensive than what can be had at thetiebar.com? Yes, without question. Is it fair to compare tiebar.com ties to ties outside the $20 range, as it's no longer strictly apples to apples? I guess maybe not, but if a substantial step up can be achieved by spending as little as $5-$10 more on the tie, I'd personally just rather spend the extra money. I mean, that's why I already have ties in those prices ranges in my closet to begin with.
So it is with an eye towards getting a huge selection of designs in just about whatever width you want that is the main reason why I would recommend tiebar.com. I actually don't think that they compare all that well, quality-wise, with some of the ties I personally (and anybody who lives in or near a major city) can get for the same price or only slightly more, but they do compare well with ties that retail for those amounts. And if you happen to live in an area that has only Macy's, Marshalls (and stuff of that ilk) and the company stores of clothing retailers, I think that tiebar.com could be your "value" stop, as you probably will do better there for the price than most of your brick-and-mortar options.
For me, I probably will order from them again at some point, but it will be because I really wanted a particular pattern and hadn't seen it anywhere else, not because I think the products are great in general.
Just an update on my experience. As I previously posted, I ordered four but had to return two. Of the two that came back, I now need to return one (it has a couple of minor but noticeable spots of discoloration). A 50% success rate is fine when I'm manually going through the discount racks at a store, as I can just avoid the problem specimens. But it's a lot more annoying when ordering from a mail-order company.
no love for tie bar?
Can't say I'm an expert on ties, but the quality has been pretty good considering the price point. It's definitely much better than most retail brands that cost at least two or three times as much. They're no Sam Hobers, but it is definitely a great way to build out a rotation at fifteen dollars a pop. Out of my rotation so far, only my Hober ties and tie bar ties have been holding steady while most of my mall brand ties, which were purchased in a similar time frame, are already showing their age and deterioration.
I returned them immediately. They were too "thin", that is not "crunchy"
enough. Ties at local retailers run around $100, some are on sale now
at 50% off. However, these ties are much more substantial and produce
knots appropriate to my spread and cutaway collar shirts.