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Chances are those made in wherever belts are partially made in or components from China or Vietnam before finished in those countries you associate with quality.

 

I´ll take my chances rather than knowing for sure the quality will be low and the workers are likely to be underpaid. 

post #122 of 132

If I purchase it belt,usually leather, then i always make sure its 100% leather. I usually purchase Brooks brothers or Allen Edmond belts on sale. Usually run about $50 .

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Chances are those made in wherever belts are partially made in or components from China or Vietnam before finished in those countries you associate with quality.

Im sure that some firms do this, however there are plenty of firms in the UK, France, Italy, the US etc who make 100% percent in house. Manufacturing isn't as dead as people would have you believe, though of course a certain amount of research has to be done to know whats true and what isn't..

Charlie
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Besides, your outfit is only as good as your weakest link.
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I think it was Hardy Amies' advice to buy the most expensive belt you can afford as in his view a cheap belt utterly ruins an outfit.

A think a statement like "your outfit is only as good as your weakest link" immediately sounds like a quality style chestnut that every proper gentleman should follow. However, I think this is just flat out wrong and believe almost the opposite to be true: A few interesting or quality pieces will overshadow everything else. Try wearing Dockers slacks and an AA tee with a Cucinelli leather jacket - and of course some shitty belt from Walmart. If you pair that look with nice sneakers, good haircut the less-nice items will go completely unnoticed. I would say this is very true in real life experience, but even true here on SF.
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There are a few people in the States making really cool exotic skin belts in a similar way to me who have would some really top notch Alligator stuff I'm sure. Charlie

Who?
post #125 of 132
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Who?

Cant remember who I was thinking of! None the less theres a lot of good Alligator stuff coming out of the States so am sure searches here will find some suggestions. There are some European makers like Duret and ABP as well that are likely using US sourced Alligator

Charlie
post #126 of 132
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Originally Posted by Equus Leather View Post

Im sure that some firms do this, however there are plenty of firms in the UK, France, Italy, the US etc who make 100% percent in house. Manufacturing isn't as dead as people would have you believe, though of course a certain amount of research has to be done to know whats true and what isn't..

Charlie

100% in house? Even for those metals???

There's a good reason to outsource to low cost producing countries like Italy and China.
post #127 of 132
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100% in house? Even for those metals???

There's a good reason to outsource to low cost producing countries like Italy and China.

I doubt there are many who make their own metalwork but its certainly possible to buy metalwork thats very well made and worth paying the premium for from local makers - we have our hardware made for us in the UK. I know for a fact there are also excellent buckle and fitting makers in France who make for Hermes and LVMH. Ive seen the industrial buckles from Italy first hand and the quality drop is very apparent. There undoubtedly is a good business case for outsourcing all production to low labour cost countries but if you want quality that isn't the way forward. If your biggest concern is the lowest cost per unit you will get what you paid for, low cost, low quality. Im sure there are good makers in both counties but I also doubt they are low cost and in that case the business case is surely for supporting factories in your local market and removing the language, cultural and shipping barriers for little extra cost. Im sure others will disagree but its something we philosophically disagree with, each to their own though!

Charlie
post #128 of 132

So, I've bought two belts from Brooks in the past, both variations on their standard dress belt. The first one I bought was "made in Italy" and has lasted for 10 years. Sure, there's dimples where I notch my belt, but it's held up really well. The leather still looks great, supple, etc.

 

The second belt I bought, four years into the first belt, was also from Brooks. "Made in China" and quickly the leather deteriorated after about 50 wears and started to look like it had been rubbed down with sandpaper. It now lives at the bottom of one of my drawers.

 

Has anyone bought a Brooks belt recently and how did it go if so? I'm in the market for an emergency burgundy belt (need by Friday) but I'm in NYC.. so it might be brooks again, but if anyone has any other recommendations (Paul Stuart, I thought, but they don't have burgundy belts in the <$150 range it seems) I would really appreciate it..

 

For what it's worth I have a zegna reversible belt and the quality is great. Black or cognac on demand. The only problem is ostentatious lettering on the buckle. I also have a narragansett belt, which I like but ordered too thin (1" is too thin for my taste) and it's a bit "rougher" - great for jeans, not for a suit, which is what this Friday demands.

post #129 of 132

There is a chinese company that builds Mercedes Benz and Rolls Royce replicas, bar the brand logos. If you removed the logos from both cars people on the street probably wouldn't know the difference, but you'd still know you're driving the cheap replica. Same for cheap belts, shoes or anything else, I like quality and if I can afford it I will.


Edited by El Fede - 11/25/15 at 10:50am
post #130 of 132

I personally have purchased expensive belt "buckles" and simply remove them from the belt after a year or so.  I agree if you spend the extra $ on a high quality belt it will last longer, but I prefer buying the cheaper belts and just tossing them away after a year and just putting it on a nice buckle. 

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Okay, let's put it this way. You can get a belt made of of top end bridle leather for less then $50 from a craftsman. What kind of stitching and construction can you do that brings it up to 10x the price? Finishing I can see for nicer and creative finishes. But if your belt is costing $500, barring something really special, you're being taken for a ride and most of it is pure profit. Perhaps they could make a buckle, loop and tip with solid tooled gold or something.

Yes, please tell us what craftsman offers these belts for $50, particularly a lined one with a decent solid brass buckle that would be suitable for wearing with a suit. Equus charges about three times that, and I had thought that was a pretty fair price.

 

I found this older thread while looking into adding some quality belts to my wardrobe, to pair with some higher end shoes I've purchased recently.

 

I wanted to respond to East Oakland here by mentioning a great bridle leather company based here in the US called Tory Leather that makes a good deal of equestrian products as well. The belts I have from them were less than ($50 purchase in 2015). They say they use American bridle leather, but a very handsome belt I have from them is imprinted on the inside saying English bridle leather. Here's a link:

http://toryleather.com/wp/

 

(EO, I know a vendor here in the Bay Area that carries belts from Tory and if you PM me I can refer you.)

 

I also got curious about Equus mentioned in this thread and was really impressed by their offerings. Their Stratfield line that come with a very unique, clean, Parisian-made buckle, are elegant, classic, and have the added advent of being able to be switched out with extra belt straps that can be ordered separately in all the colors they offer.

http://www.equusleather.co.uk/belts/equus-belt-kits/stratfield-belt-kit.html

 

With the recent Brexit exhange gain, I placed an order today and hope the 5-week wait will be worth the wait. I have a good feeling about it. (They make almost all their belts to order, and have a very modest selection of RTW stock on hand). A belt and buckle in the Palladium finish from the Stratfield line, plus an additional extra belt strap, ended up costing a shade over $200 (including shipping). Sure it's more than I typically spend for belt (with exception of my 23 year-old PLRL English made dress belt w/sterling buckle belt that still looks amazing). However, the Equus products appear to be of exceptional quality and with care should last decades, so worth the investment to me.

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