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post #46 of 59
5/14/10 at 11:13am
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Originally Posted by SirSuturesALot View Post
Which engineering firms are you referring to?

Engineering is a fairly segmented market and obviously depends very much on discipline.

Any of the fortune 500 companies that deal with engineering (Boeing, Lockheed, Dupont, Cocacola, Ch2M hill, Bechtel, and even companies like Intel and other tech firms)

Its very difficult to move up in engineering firms without at least 1. a masters degree and 2. a professional engineering license.
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post #47 of 59
5/14/10 at 11:17am
You could say the same for nearly any profession.

Moving up in finance requires a CFA/MBA

Moving up as an Accountant requires a CPA, an Architect requires a license.

Why should engineering be any different? Its a field where a mistake can easily cost many lives or a lot of money.
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post #48 of 59
5/14/10 at 11:20am
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Originally Posted by darkdream View Post
Highly quantitative PhD. majors (mathematics, physics, ect.) dominate the finance field, not finance majors (unless it is a highly Quantitative one).

The average person working in finance does not have a PhD in anything, let alone physics or math. Using the people who might write derivative formulas or do high level math at top banks as a model for which all people should follow if they want to work anywhere in finance is a bit silly.
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post #49 of 59
5/14/10 at 8:34pm
i took two years off after high school to travel in order to get back on track, i went to a cheap party school in new orleans for a year now i'm studying at a prestigious institution and making mad cash working at a consultancy i still don't know calculus
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post #50 of 59
5/14/10 at 9:27pm
I highly disagree with the notion that a finance degree pigeon holes you into a financial sales role or is a worthless degree. Financial sales jobs are for people who are literally at the bottom of the barrel (of any major) or are extremely sure they will succeed in commission sales. A finance undergraduate can find internships/fulltimes in finance/marketing/management/consulting roles. The only role they probably will not find themselves in is the accounting field. However, as an accoutant, you have a shit ton of stuff you need to complete to keep up with the PPA/MPA 5-year programs so many schools offer. Therefore, to say that a finance undergrad degree is worthless is too extreme. I am a graduating senior this year and I happened to choose a non-financial sales route. However, many of my peers are in IB or consulting. In my opinion, accounting (5-year masters +CPA) is the highest/best bang for your buck if you can stand tedium. Next is finance, a pretty flexible major that can interview for a wide variety of jobs/internships. (You can get any job if you have the correct track record of internships btw) Last are the MIS (aka the IT guy), Marketing, Management, etc.. I honestly do not regard management as a viable major.
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post #51 of 59
5/16/10 at 3:17am
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Originally Posted by TylerDurden View Post
Nursing has a high demand and you can easily make +$100K after just a few years. Bad thing is though, people treat you like crap, you deal with lots of poop and pee, you'll be one of the only guys (can be a good thing, and a bad thing), you work holidays and weekends, and its very easy to get sued (some states someone can sue you up to 7 years after they were in the hospital/under your care)
This x10000 It may not be as cool to say "i'm a male nurse" over "i'm in NYCBIGLAW" or "i'm a doctor" or consultant/etc.... but it's a pretty safe road. Also, if you get an advanced degree after a basic nursing degree going after a master's and then other certifications, and also being a male (still makes a difference most the times), you can pretty much not deal with "nurse things" and be more of an administrative type within the field and make solid money Honestly, considering going back and getting some nursing shit in order though it is definitely a lot of shitty work that would definitely make one miserable until you get yourself settled. Then it won't be that bad if you can deal with hospital type stuff
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post #52 of 59
5/16/10 at 3:33am
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Originally Posted by Valor View Post
I have a hard time believing BC is top 10 in anything...I also don't think "business" is a legitimate undergraduate major even at schools like Wharton.

That's funny because firms like Blackstone, Greenhill, Evercore, etc. hire predominantly undergraduate finance majors. By far the majority of new recruits at Blackstone last year came from Wharton while other top business programs were just as well represented as traditional top universities.
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post #53 of 59
5/16/10 at 10:14am
over/under on number of pages this thread goes with everyone else chiming in about major and college prestige then arguing about exclusivity and all that? Poor kids who post honest questions looking for help but just end up getting a bunch of guys measuring their e-dicks and trying to outpiss the other
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post #54 of 59
5/16/10 at 10:43am
Pissing contest? Hardly. I think it's justifiable to defend your area of study whenever someone scrutinizes its legitimacy. I'm one of those people that believe the traditional view of college as a place to "discover yourself" is outdated. Many students consider college education to be pre-professional training and in that case I think undergraduate studies in business are far more useful than some random liberal arts degree in psychology or polisci.

To take a potshot at Wharton as illegitimate seems foolhardy to me. All the respectable undergraduate business programs have, on average, stronger student pools compared to their university average.
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post #55 of 59
5/16/10 at 10:59am
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Originally Posted by chronoaug View Post
over/under on number of pages this thread goes with everyone else chiming in about major and college prestige then arguing about exclusivity and all that? Poor kids who post honest questions looking for help but just end up getting a bunch of guys measuring their e-dicks and trying to outpiss the other

I was honest and said not to study science unless you want to be undervalued and underpaid. I made that unfortunate mistake.
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post #56 of 59
5/16/10 at 2:21pm
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Originally Posted by chronoaug View Post
over/under on number of pages this thread goes with everyone else chiming in about major and college prestige then arguing about exclusivity and all that? Poor kids who post honest questions looking for help but just end up getting a bunch of guys measuring their e-dicks and trying to outpiss the other

I was giving an honest perspective as a state-school grad.
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post #57 of 59
5/16/10 at 3:59pm
If you're good at analyzing stuff then computer science could be good if you are into that kind of thing. It's got a pretty decent job market too.
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post #58 of 59
5/16/10 at 5:52pm
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Originally Posted by yoyodunno View Post
If you're good at analyzing stuff then computer science could be good if you are into that kind of thing. It's got a pretty decent job market too.

The OP said math is not his forte.
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post #59 of 59
5/17/10 at 2:38am
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Originally Posted by SkinnyGoomba View Post
I was giving an honest perspective as a state-school grad.

wasn't talking to anyone in particular just teasing as i've seen a bunch of similar threads spiral out of control

some good advice in here though
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