Howard Yount Pants - how are they?
I haven't held HY or Panta's in real life, but from the specs online plus looking at pictures, they have a lot of features in common, including curtained waistband, rear V-split, hand-stiching, etc... Perhaps someone who has bought both can enlighten us. Regardless of which brand you purchase, I think you will get a far better deal with either Panta or HY than you could ever find anywhere else.
Highly recommended. The only thing better than the pants is the customer service.
This distinction is only an issue for those who must put both palms overhead against the tile while getting rid of the last few pints of beer.
What you really want to do is to throw your shoulders back a bit, so that you don't need to use your hands to stablize yourself. With both hands free, it then becomes simple matter to shake off and button one's fly.
There's a demonstration video on the Panta home page.
I need to gripe a bit about Howard Yount, I thought the pants were nice, but the customer service is on the horrible side. I ordered on a Friday, hoping they would be sent out by Monday, received the confirmation email Wednesday, and received the pants by Friday, stated 3-6 days on the website but close enough. The size was slightly too small so I immediately sent them back and he had them by Monday, I didn't hear anything back from him till Thursday. So I placed another order on the same day, they went out Friday, I received the pants but I was mailed a black pair of regular cut pants when I ordered slim navy pants, and unfortunately he doesn't cover shipping costs. So if your looking for a company with decent customer service, you will be disappointed. .
I actually just placed my first order and am very pleased. The wool pants I originally ordered which appeared to be in stock on the website actually wasn't but Jamison quickly jumped in and provided another pair in it's place that retailed $10 more at no extra charge. He shipped the items out quickly (also got a pair of socks to try) and I got exactly what I asked for with fast USPS service.
Top quality products and awesome customer service. Would definitely buy from them again. Sorry it did not work out for you Brandonp2002.
I think they have a few different fit types from what I saw but only one fit type per item. Probably too hard to maintain multiple fits for each model but that is just a guess.
I actually bought the classic slim fit USA made. There is a new skinny fit model made in USA that probably would meet your needs (Might be a new line but am no expert) or the very slim fit made in Italy pants. I do have a cotton pair I bought off a member here that was the Made in Italy very slim the next size up and they work for me but are a little loose in the waist but not enough I feel I want to take them in.
I just used the email address: firstname.lastname@example.org
The classic usa fit is too big on me, had to get it tailored. The Italian fit is too slim in the same size, so yeah im thinking of sizing up.
Didnt know about the slimmer usa fit thanks for the info
No problem, glad I could help out another Bay area member. I definitely would rather take the waist in then tailor other aspects. Good luck in finding something that works.