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post #16 of 28
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Originally Posted by chorse123
Exactly. And mango.

I often wonder why manufacturers bother to make such odd choices in colors or styling. It's clear they will not sell like more traditional colors so why don't they just make very limited quantities (or none at all) given they will end up in the bargain bin or eBay anyway.
post #17 of 28
Zanellas are my workhorse pants. I wear them almost every day. My favorites are called, I think, the Nico model. They're a flat front with a medium rise and legs somewhere between Oxxford bulbous and Borrelli stick-figure. I've bought six or seven of them in different shades and fabric weights. I don't know if they're a Neiman's exclusive, but all my mine were from either NM or NMLC. Do they have the handwork of some of the others? Not really. Their pocket and fly seams are done by machine and not neatly picked like Zegna, Barbera, Kiton, Oxxford, etc. I don't think they have done (or would do) anything as exquisite as my Kiton charcoal flannels. I compare them to Lorenzini shirts, another of my favorites. Sure, machine made, but great fabrics and often finished nicer than "hand-made" shirts. And prices are not out-of-line for the quality and the market.
post #18 of 28
Thread Starter 
I think the Lorenzini analogy is a good one, thanks.
post #19 of 28
Yes, I too think SGladwell's analogy is accurate. In my experience in owning better-quality trousers, I'd place Zanella in the middle range. They aren't as nice as Incotex, Zegna, Canali, or RL Purple Label (made by Saint Andrews, and very nice), and definitely not in the same class as Kiton, Brioni, Oxxford, or Borrelli. However, they outclass Boss, RL Polo, Brooks Bros., Hickey-Freman, and many smaller Italian labels like Zanieri and Altieri. I think that they're pretty good value for money if purchased at less than retail (expect to pay somewhere between $70 and $130 on eBay), but lack the hand work noted in earlier posts, and my one pair (Bennetts) are made of pretty undistinguished wool. If you're considering Zanella, you need to think about flat vs. pleated front, and, particularly, the fullness of the cut. The various models have proper names like Bennett, Bennie, Jessie, and so on and really differ in cut, number of pleats, etc. Some are very full-cut, others, like the Bennett, are slimmer. Here's a link to a Zanella seller, and you can get a sense of the variety there:

http://www.mistershop.com/zaitsl.html
post #20 of 28
Thread Starter 
Thank you Roger for the link.
post #21 of 28
I've seen some really pretty Zanellas. Nice fabrics. And from what I'm told, the generic American male likes the cut/fit.

But after having spent a lot of time in consignment shops and thrift stores in the early years of our ebay business, I'm not impressed with the quality of construction. AT LEAST half of them are discarded because of ripped pockets. By contrast, I have NEVER seen a pair of Oxxford, Zegna, Incotex with ripped pockets. For that matter, I've seen this issue more on Zanella than ANY other brand, including Lands End, Greg Peters, and other lower end brands. Seriously.

BUT, they are pretty. Just don't stick your hands or wallets in your pockets. You'll love them.
post #22 of 28
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Originally Posted by EL72
I often wonder why manufacturers bother to make such odd choices in colors or styling. It's clear they will not sell like more traditional colors so why don't they just make very limited quantities (or none at all) given they will end up in the bargain bin or eBay anyway.

Same questions here -- many high end manufacturers (notably and extremely Kiton) make some awfully crazy ugly stuff. What are they thinking?

~ Huntsman
post #23 of 28
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Originally Posted by Roger
Yes, I too think SGladwell's analogy is accurate. In my experience in owning better-quality trousers, I'd place Zanella in the middle range. They aren't as nice as Incotex, Zegna, Canali, or RL Purple Label (made by Saint Andrews, and very nice), and definitely not in the same class as Kiton, Brioni, Oxxford, or Borrelli. However, they outclass Boss, RL Polo, Brooks Bros., Hickey-Freman, and many smaller Italian labels like Zanieri and Altieri. I think that they're pretty good value for money if purchased at less than retail (expect to pay somewhere between $70 and $130 on eBay), but lack the hand work noted in earlier posts, and my one pair (Bennetts) are made of pretty undistinguished wool. If you're considering Zanella, you need to think about flat vs. pleated front, and, particularly, the fullness of the cut. The various models have proper names like Bennett, Bennie, Jessie, and so on and really differ in cut, number of pleats, etc. Some are very full-cut, others, like the Bennett, are slimmer. Here's a link to a Zanella seller, and you can get a sense of the variety there:

http://www.mistershop.com/zaitsl.html


Exactly where I'd place Zanella in the hierarchy of pants that I own or have seen, but I haven't owned the Zanellas long enough to notice issues with the pockets. If they have problems with wear, I'll find out though, since I carry keys in my pockets.

I have 2 pairs of Zanellas, both the Bennie model, IIRC, flat front and moderately slim. I like the cut and the drape, although as SGladwell noted, they lack the niceties of Brioni or Zegna trousers. One pair of my Zanellas is standard navy gabardine; the second pair is a very nice mid-gray gab with a small woven check pattern. I'd pay up to $150.
post #24 of 28
Thread Starter 
I found some beautiful grey ones that cost me $132, about half price and they were brand new.

I think though that I will try some Zegnas next at $300 or if I can get an ebay deal. My favorites are Kiton and Incotex but Kiton is super-expensive and Incotex is now $500+. Not sure if the $200 gap above Zegna is a good value anymore. Probably will buy 2-3 at the Louis sale if the prices are good (they usually are).

My new work outfit is dress slacks, nice Kiton shirt, Zegna or Kiton sportcoat, no tie. I just don't have many suit events anymore and my clients (who are generally SVPs at banks) really don't wear ties anymore with the exception of the New York investment banks.

NYC business trips are a double win for me: dressing up in suits and visiting fine stores like Bergdorf, Kiton, Zegna, Oxxford, Bizzocchi, Lobb, Berluti, etc.
post #25 of 28
Another good trouser maker is Valentini.
post #26 of 28
Yesterday I came across two pairs of Zanella slacks on ebay which I bought. Both are slightly used and not NWT, hence the nice pricelevel. However, I have never seen pants from that brand IRL (not available here), so I'm just wondering if they are real or counterfeit, just to be shure: *question answered, pictures removed* Thx in advance!
post #27 of 28
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Originally Posted by Swededude
Yesterday I came across two pairs of Zanella slacks on ebay which I bought. Both are slightly used and not NWT, hence the nice pricelevel. However, I have never seen pants from that brand IRL (not available here), so I'm just wondering if they are real or counterfeit, just to be shure:

1: http://www.auctiva.com/hostedimages/...0,0,0&format=0

2: http://host399.ipowerweb.com/~ellaho...071006_(1).jpg

http://host399.ipowerweb.com/~ellaho...ella071006.jpg

Thx in advance!

they look legit to me.
post #28 of 28
Agreed. The waist band is trademaek Zanella. Also,, it is just not a brand that has enough cachet to make it worth counterfeiting and then selling as used.
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