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Appropriate to tuck tie into shirt

post #1 of 28
Thread Starter 
Hi, When going for dinner at someone's house, is it appropriate for me to tuck my tie into my shirt? I won't be wearing a suit, just shirt, tie and slacks. Thanks.
post #2 of 28
Ummmm. I wouldn't use the word "appropriate" -- I think tucking in one's tie should be avoided as it is informal and suggests you're not confident in your ability with a fork to avoid stains. Perhaps move the lower part of the tie to the side so it rests near your pants pocket -- something I do sometimes. Or pull up your lap napkin higher than you normally would. On the other hand, tucking in one's tie is certainly better than slinging the tie over one's shoulder. However, I seem to recall seeing pictures of some celebrity eating dinner with his tie tucked into his shirt. So hey, perhaps its become more accepted, or trendy. Who knows.
post #3 of 28
A tie, shirt, and slacks isn't appropriate for dinner over someone's house. Ditch the tie, it's too stuffy and looks awkward without a jacket. If you do have the occasion to wear a tie at a meal, I'd tuck it into the space between the 4th and 5th button from the collar.
post #4 of 28
If it's too hot, go for 'Red Sea Rig' which is what the navy calls informal dinner dress (i.e. a tuxedo) without the coat. So rather than tucking your tie into your shirt, wear a bow tie. I suppose you might forgoe the cummerbund depending if the dress is supposed to be casual or informal. Or you could wear an ascot with an untucked shirt (make sure the tails are square). Or a safari shirt with ascot, i.e. the Brian Fellows' Safari Planet look. PS. The US army can get away with their khaki ties tucked into khaki shirts, but no one else can.
post #5 of 28
IMO, tucking a tie into a shirt shows a lack of confidence. If you are concerned about the getting stains on the tie, then rest the dinner napkin higher so that it covers the bottom of the tie. Then again, you could wear the ugliest tie you can find with the oddest pattern so that if you do get a stain on it, no one will know. Classic
post #6 of 28
Such a gesture in company other than that of intimate friends and immediate family would seem to call excessive attention to itself, and display a sartorial fastidiousness that endangers elegance and grace.  If the cuisine is such that you fear possible damage to your clothing, as others have advised, wear something that is expendable; if  indelicacy often accompanies you to table (no offense intended...I'm a too happy eater myself), but you wish to attend this dinner party well turned out, you must necessarily assume the risk of damage to your clothing.  Better to stain a tie, which you will find is more easily replaced than the smirched impression with which you may leave your host.
post #7 of 28
Do not tuck your tie into your shirt unless you actively preparing or serving food. Additionally, if you're looking to add formality to the shirt and trousers look, add a jacket, with a tie if you want more formality, and without a tie if you want a more casual look. Wearing a tie without a jacket makes it look as if you forgot your jacket. The only more disconcerting look is that of the short-sleeved "dress" shirt with a tie and no jacket.
post #8 of 28
You wear a tie to a friend's house? Anyway, no, don't tuck your tie into your shirt, despite what Prada is trying to sell us all this season. Also, if you are wearing a tie, wear a jacket as well. Nothing looks more "Mormon missionary" (or it's close cousin, "Jehovah's Witness missionary") than a shirt and tie without a jacket.
post #9 of 28
if you are supposed to dress up for some reason, you really should wear a jacket. if not, then ditch the tie. and if you're really that worried about ruining your ties, buy less expensive ones. don't tuck them in.
post #10 of 28
Thread Starter 
Thank you for all the feedback. I understand and agree that I should not tuck in my tie into my shirt. However, I'm rather surprised that many are against wearing a shirt, tie and slacks without a jacket. Is this a rather American thing as I believe wearing a shirt, tie and slacks without a jacket is quite common in places like England. Wouldn't it be more "inappropriate" in the tradition of proper dressing to wear a jacket, shirt and slacks without a tie? Thanks.
post #11 of 28
Wouldn't it be more "inappropriate" in the tradition of proper dressing to wear a jacket, shirt and slacks without a tie? Thanks.
i don't know what you mean by proper dressing. if this is a casual, informal dinner at your friend's house, why wear a tie? if it is formal to the point that a tie is required, then certainly a jacket is called for. i suspect that if you don't find it necessary to wear a jacket, then it's not really a formal dinner, and you just want to wear some particular tie because you like the way it looks. the lead characters in francois truffaut's films tend to wear dress shirts and ties with sweaters or leather jackets. i don't like the look but it's your call to make.
post #12 of 28
Thread Starter 
i don't know what you mean by proper dressing.
Thanks for your response. Has is not been tradition that the following represent increasing levels of dressiness: [1] shirt + slacks [2] shirt + slacks + tie [3] shirt + tie + suit I have always thought that suit + shirt is a relatively modern combination, but of course, I may be wrong
post #13 of 28
gregory, My understanding of levels of formality is as follows, from least formal to most formal: 1) Dress shirt and trousers. 2) Dress shirt, odd trousers and jacket. 3) Dress shirt, jacket and tie, odd trousers. 4) Single Breasted Suit and tie (We'll assume you are wearing a shirt at this point). 5) Double Breasted Suit and Tie 6) Black Tie 7) White Tie There is certainly freedom within those levels, however, as a more conservative dresser, I would not recommend taking too many liberties. Sweaters may typically be substituted for odd jackets, with or without ties. I would not recommend wearing a tie without a jacket, as the look is one that is somewhat disheveled, in my opinion. A jacket or sweater "frames" the tie rather well, where, without a jacket or sweater, the tie seems out of place and the look is an incomplete one. Also, while I support wearing odd jackets and trousers without ties, I can't say I'm very fond of wearing a suit without a tie. I find this look overly reminiscent of a leisure suit, a fashion which I'm not fond of.
post #14 of 28
Dandy, The double breasted suit is actually considered less formal than the single breasted suit. The cherished DB may be more chic than an SB, but it is less formal. Best regards.
post #15 of 28
Originally posted by LA Guy
You wear a tie to a friend's house?
I'm in a suit five, sometimes six days per week, and enjoy being so attired.  I dress more to please myself than others, or as a  strict requirement of my profession.  If opportunity would have me attend a dinner party, whether one more or less formal, I would often do so from business without having had the opportunity to return home for a change of clothes.  So yes, I would, and do, attend social events at the homes of friends and associates with jacket and tie, and have to date found no good reason to doff these items of clothing after arrival.  This being said, however, casual events call for casual clothes, whenever practicable.
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