shirt collar sizing and Isaia

You should be able to just fit two fingers inside when its buttoned. Loose enough to move your neck, but not so loose that when you pull up your tie knot, the material wrinkles.

I had this saved for myself as a record, hoepfully it will help you get your head around Isaia's different lines. Quality wise, they varied over the years. They had a diffusion line that was fused but I think most of their current line is canvassed (someone correct me if I'm wrong) from what i've seen and felt in the stores.

Originally Posted by cksnipe
The Sirio ( S Body)- The most popular body within the Isaia line is also the fullest in structure The S Body is the base in the collection from which all others are derives. Defined by its classic Neapolitan natural shoulder, this garment was shortened slightly in 2008 to give it a more contemporary expression. This model as with all Isaia garments is available in 2 or 3 button, peak and notch lapels, single or double breasted.

The Vesuvio (V body)- A tad more suppressed in the torso than the S body, these garments are defined by their rope shoulder, and even higher armhole.

The Tribeca (T-Body)- The T body has a suppressed torso similar to the V-body. A lightly roped shoulder and very fitted sleeve- similar to that of a sweater.

The Gregory (g-body)- Similar to the S body yet defined by a softer shoulder, this design carries a shorter body, and a mildly tapered sleeve.

The Dustin Body (d- Body) This model has an even softer shoulder than the S Body, and even more natural deconstructed shoulder and is generally styled in a French face/half lined jacket. This shoulder shows "grinze" creases/pleating at the sleeve head. This soft jacket is usually accompanied by a 3 patch pocket.

The X Body- Similar to the G body characterized by the single button closure which created a more fitted midsection with in the garment.

Any thoughts on a Base L?

quality wise, the mainline has not varied and has been superlative over the years. we discussed the diffusion line a month or so ago. consensus was that it hasn't been seen for a while. a couple of comments on the earlier post you quoted with the various models: Base V has a slightly more built up shoulder than Base S. drop = 8 Base T is an unambiguously skinny fit, similar in several respects to RLBL (very small armholes, skinny arms, constructed shoulder). it is discernably much slimmer than a Base V. i run a EUR 56 in base S, but i think i would need a 60 in a "T" to have even a prayer of getting into it. drop = 8 Base G / Gregory: i am not convinced that these two are the same. Gregory: - very slim fit, similar to base T - very short jacket - however: drop 7 only, and pants have deep pleats G: - roomier fit - shoulders fairly constructed -- similar to Base T (in contrast, Gregory is very light) - jacket "normal" isaia length - also drop 7, also pleats in addition to the models you listed, i also have a Base E. - body similar to "S", but a tad roomier - shoulders more padded than "S" - drop 7 quality across each of these lines is uniformly top-notch; differences are aesthetic only. everything is fully canvassed. hope this helps.

never seen or worn. sorry.

Great info.

You can move a little the collar button to fit +- 1 size.