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I'd go for the m6 wheels for sure. Keeping that clean stock look.
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Originally Posted by horndog View Post

HRE's and ADV1 are *not* worth the price -- these should be left to guys with money to blow. ADV1 in particular seems to spend more resource doing photo shoots with Lambos than they do in R&D. The owner's background is shady as hell too. Word on the street is that the same factory which makes ADV1s does other brands at the same quality for half as much. HRE's seem to be pretty great wheels but I too have heard the occasional horror stories.

Most companies do the bolded, because there aren't many forges out there - of true drop-forges, there are only a handful in the world as they're millions of dollars. They have a bunch of other lesser 'forging' methods nowadays though, like spread-forging, etc.
BMW OEM wheels are made by BBS, or Ronal, Zender, etc - AC Schnitzer are made by Ronal, and Hamann have always been made by OZ. Hamann even sold the original PG 1 wheel (when they brought out the DTM look with... ahem.... black grille covers) by simply swapping centercaps on O.Z. Futuras, and marking them up.
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Originally Posted by GreenFrog View Post

Also, I'm a little ticked that I can't wear my jeans in my car.. I picked up a pair of raw denimz last weekend in NYC (finally got to visit blue in green) and I'm scared to death that the indigo will bleed onto my seats. My 3-year-old APCs are at my parents' place back in Mass., so I've resorted to wearing my gym shorts like a bum.

Plain white toothpaste will remove denim residue on white leather.
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Yup.

When will you post pics of your stable?!
I think 2008 was the last time I posted a pic of anything on SF, and those were shooz, IIRC. Come to think of it, I don't think I've taken a pic of anything at all since then. The camera on my iPhone is going to waste. eh.gif
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I just got a mailed invitation from The Collection (high end Miami dealership) to attend the launch event/test drive the new Cayman. I do want to check it out but I'm sure I'll get the heavy sales pitch (and I'm afraid I might succumb to it! laugh.gif) and get placed on every spam list that they have. trying to figure out if it's worth it
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Originally Posted by HRoi View Post

I just got a mailed invitation from The Collection (high end Miami dealership) to attend the launch event/test drive the new Cayman. I do want to check it out but I'm sure I'll get the heavy sales pitch (and I'm afraid I might succumb to it! laugh.gif) and get placed on every spam list that they have. trying to figure out if it's worth it

Its not. You can go test that car anytime and avoid the fanfare.
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Congrats GF! I hope you'll be able to enjoy that car to its fullest.

As for wheels, just remember the origin of the M5 as a sleeper sedan with stealthy performance characteristics, and you'll do OK. That means no ricey anything, and the car should be as anonymous and normal-looking as possible. FWIW, I don't like the M6 wheels either. I think a classic one-piece BBS-style wheel in silver works best with that car. Also, no vanity plates.
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Well I know it pales in comparison to GF's M5, but I picked up a 2003 330i in Steel Grey Metallic over Black interior with Premium and Sport packages and Xenons and 66k on the clock for 10.5 grand. Thanks to everyone who helped, I've had the car for a week now and I've loved driving it every day. Unbelievably balanced, everything I was looking for. Let's hope she hangs around for a while. 

 

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Originally Posted by impolyt_one View Post

If you want to spend $2k'ish and not $5k'ish, then your only choice is to get a set of forged OEM M6's and transfer the PS2's over, and then refurbish your stock M5's once the tires are off. Anything else you'd buy for $2K (i'm assuming that's not including some 'cheap' 20" tires) would be cast and weigh a ton, and almost definitely crack or bend. Problem is, I don't know if one can find M6 wheels for even $2k, they're probably a little more than that.

Goddamn. Didn't know wheels could get that expensive. I thought $5K would get you some very, very, VERY nice rims. frown.gif

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Originally Posted by HRoi View Post

$2K won't get you too far in the aftermarket. your best bet would indeed be those M6's (are they 20-inchers? 19's will look too small for the E60 imo) if you can get them for $2k. or reps - consensus is that VMR's are probably one of the best quality for the money in that game.

your PO doesn't know WTF he's talking about if he's dissing the PS2's...those tires have been the benchmark for a very long time. however, there are some tires that are starting to provide a bit better performance per dollar, like the Hankook V12, which is what i run on the M3. i dunno if they are better than the PS2's in terms of absolute performance, thoughs

of course, Michelin promptly raised the bar even further with the PSS, which is a step forward in every way, not to mention being a bit cheaper than the PS2. i run the PSS's on the Porsche and i wouldn't change them for anything out there right now.

on the BMW i'm running BBS LM 20x9F and 20x11R on the aforementioned Hankook V12. they do retail for about x4 of your stated budget but we can probably knock quite a bit off that price (but not get it down to $2k though shog[1].gif )

ADV.1 has a really bad rep on the BMW forums. in the worst of ways too - bad QC, catastrophic wheel failures, accusations of dishonesty...up to you if you want to take the plunge, but i'd shy away. also, if you think BBS is pricey, ADV.1 is a whole other level. for my money i'd stick with the long-proven brands - BBS, Volk, Rays. since i think the latter two look like complete shit on a European car it was an easy choice for me to stay with BBS. HRE has tempted me too, but they have their stories as well.

He wasn't necessarily dissing them; he was just saying that there are tires that offer the same level of performance for a lot less money. I think I still have around 15K miles of tread left on them since he said they're good for 30K miles. I'll probably get the Michelin PSSs next teacha.gif.

And jesus christ! $8K for wheels?! FUCK ME. I am not even remotely considering spending 20% of my car's value on wheels. No. Maybe I'll up the budget to $3K, but at this rate, I'd rather just remove the powdercoat on my stock rims or just trade them for OEM M6 rims.

The more and more I think about it, I think the M5 deserves more understated wheels. Nothing too flashy.

Thanks for the heads up on ADV.1. I always knew they were $$$ but I thought the quality was up to snuff as well. Guess not.

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Originally Posted by poorsod View Post

I run the pilot super sport for summers and I think they are great. I use BBS for my winter rims. I stayed away from HRE because of the problems I've heard.

Good stuff. Good thing I don't need winter wheels/tires in Dallas biggrin.gif.
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Originally Posted by horndog View Post

Couple things GreenFrog, cause I'm in the same boat as you with my Supra. So many wheel choices are out there and here's my take on a few of the companies that I've researched:

HRE's and ADV1 are *not* worth the price -- these should be left to guys with money to blow. ADV1 in particular seems to spend more resource doing photo shoots with Lambos than they do in R&D. The owner's background is shady as hell too. Word on the street is that the same factory which makes ADV1s does other brands at the same quality for half as much. HRE's seem to be pretty great wheels but I too have heard the occasional horror stories.

More to your point, the most bang for your buck wheels are CCW and Forgestar. I've heard very few bad reviews on either, and CCWs are highly regarded in the Supra community.

Volk's have a stellar reputation for strength and build quality but their designs can be ricey. Also, likely out of your price range. Work seems to be an all around good wheel but again, likely out of your price range.

I wouldn't hesitate to buy used, too. Just check your bmw boards for some reputable sellers. Heed the warning of the previous poster re: wheel offsets and sizes. Offset has everything to do with getting a flush fitment with your fender. Also has much to do with lip size. Please avoid the stancenation look!

It's also good to identify a tire you want (although this may be splitting hairs in RL application you can't avoid it in a good car talk). Adding to the above poster, the Michelin Pilot Super Sport is, according to user and publication review, the top street tire out there. See more here: http://www.caranddriver.com/comparisons/michelin-pilot-super-sport-page-10

Best post. Thanks so much. Super informative. Will look into CCW and Forgestar, although at first glance, I'm not liking their designs very much.

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Put plastic on the seats like your grandmother put in the living room.  BAMM!!!  Problem solved  laugh3-smiley.gif?1292867631

lulz.
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Originally Posted by Find Finn View Post

Plain white toothpaste will remove denim residue on white leather.

Good to know, but I don't want to rub toothpaste on my leather seats frown.gif.
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Originally Posted by JayJay View Post

I think 2008 was the last time I posted a pic of anything on SF, and those were shooz, IIRC. Come to think of it, I don't think I've taken a pic of anything at all since then. The camera on my iPhone is going to waste. eh.gif

Well, what are you waiting for?! At this rate, I don't even believe anymore that you have an S63 AMG. I bet you drive a Fiat 500 devil.gif.

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Originally Posted by HRoi View Post

I just got a mailed invitation from The Collection (high end Miami dealership) to attend the launch event/test drive the new Cayman. I do want to check it out but I'm sure I'll get the heavy sales pitch (and I'm afraid I might succumb to it! laugh.gif) and get placed on every spam list that they have. trying to figure out if it's worth it

You should show up and size up the other people who got invited!

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Originally Posted by A Y View Post

Congrats GF! I hope you'll be able to enjoy that car to its fullest.

As for wheels, just remember the origin of the M5 as a sleeper sedan with stealthy performance characteristics, and you'll do OK. That means no ricey anything, and the car should be as anonymous and normal-looking as possible. FWIW, I don't like the M6 wheels either. I think a classic one-piece BBS-style wheel in silver works best with that car. Also, no vanity plates.

Thanks, A Y! I agree with getting the understated wheels. I did get vanity plates, though shog[1].gif (no douchey message, however).
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Originally Posted by shadesofbeige View Post

Well I know it pales in comparison to GF's M5, but I picked up a 2003 330i in Steel Grey Metallic over Black interior with Premium and Sport packages and Xenons and 66k on the clock for 10.5 grand. Thanks to everyone who helped, I've had the car for a week now and I've loved driving it every day. Unbelievably balanced, everything I was looking for. Let's hope she hangs around for a while. 



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The E46 is a beautiful car. I already miss my ZHP so, so, so much. Sounds like you got a pretty good deal, too!

Is it a M/T?
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Originally Posted by shadesofbeige View Post

Well I know it pales in comparison to GF's M5, but I picked up a 2003 330i in Steel Grey Metallic over Black interior with Premium and Sport packages and Xenons and 66k on the clock for 10.5 grand. Thanks to everyone who helped, I've had the car for a week now and I've loved driving it every day. Unbelievably balanced, everything I was looking for. Let's hope she hangs around for a while. 


that's a great deal for the price and miles, assuming clear title. one of the best colors too
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that's a great deal for the price and miles, assuming clear title. one of the best colors too

Yep, clear title. 2 previous owners and never wrecked. I wasn't particularly looking for steel grey, but it's much better in person than in pics, definitely one of my favorite e46 colors. It's a Steptronic unfortunately, gave up on trying to find a manual. I can always borrow my dad's e30 325is when I feel like driving stick icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif

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Originally Posted by shadesofbeige View Post

Well I know it pales in comparison to GF's M5, but I picked up a 2003 330i in Steel Grey Metallic over Black interior with Premium and Sport packages and Xenons and 66k on the clock for 10.5 grand. Thanks to everyone who helped, I've had the car for a week now and I've loved driving it every day. Unbelievably balanced, everything I was looking for. Let's hope she hangs around for a while. 

 


Nice.  Low miles too.  Next thing to do is look for some used zhp wheels (because they really do look nice)  and mount snows on the stock wheels.

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beige, you should locate Greenfrog's ZHP buyer and tell him he paid $5k too much laugh2-smiley.gif?1292867631
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Originally Posted by shadesofbeige View Post

Yep, clear title. 2 previous owners and never wrecked. I wasn't particularly looking for steel grey, but it's much better in person than in pics, definitely one of my favorite e46 colors. It's a Steptronic unfortunately, gave up on trying to find a manual. I can always borrow my dad's e30 325is when I feel like driving stick icon_gu_b_slayer%5B1%5D.gif

If it's never been done, you might want to consider changing the transmission fluid. If you don't change the original fluid before 100k, you should never ever change it because the transmission won't work right after the change. This is for the automatics. Manuals have different issues.
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