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Originally Posted by Rumpelstiltskin View Post

@ Froggy

Just move to Long(guh) Island and you can blast up and down Southern State, Cross Island and the Belt Parkway

given GF's track record with getting snagged by highway patrol for speeding tickets... those specific highways will bankrupt (and possibly imprison) him before memorial day weekend.
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jersey cops are totally cool with kids speeding in BMW's sly.gif
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Originally Posted by impolyt_one View Post

Americans know F1 by name but aren't really big into F1 like the rest of the world, so the sequential trannies without clutch pedals still bother Americans, it was a memo they never got.

Not sure if this is just an american thing, though. Those early generation semi auto trannies just sucked. They were like the 1 2 3 clunking up the gears in automatic transmissions by hand.

The sequential F1 transmission shifts in milliseconds. You're talking about the difference between a fighter jet and a Cessna.

Its possible some later gen versions of these trannies in road cars are better, but I hear complaints as recently as a couple of years ago these sucked in the high end like Aston Martin and Ferrari.
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the dual clutches make all the difference in the world. the BMW SMG and Lamborghini e-gear just plain suck. the BMW DCT, Audi DSG, and whatever Ferrari calls what they have in the Italia are just plain amazing and pretty much have no significant drawbacks. once everyone catches up with those companies there will be no practical reason to drive a manual other than preference
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^^You've driven the Italia? /jealous
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i was amazed at how fast the 430 shifted with the paddles, but apparently the 458 is like a fraction of that. Cannot compute.
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I don't like how DSGs sound: their upshifts sound like automatic slushboxes where one gear slurs into another instead of distinct notes of the engine winding down. I know that's why they're faster, but I don't like how they sound.

Anyway shift speed is important only for upshifts. Downshift speeds are a red herring. Also more manual gearboxes do the engine blip on downshifts so you don't need to learn how to heel-toe anymore. The 370Z's H-pattern gearbox does this, as do the F10 5 series', I'm told.
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Originally Posted by impolyt_one View Post

Honestly GreenFrog, if you like cars that much, you should just stay where you are, or move to LA, maybe SF. You'd probably never drive the thing in NY, and it's not a rare enough car to eat the massive depreciation and operating costs, just to have it. I can't imagine having a car in NYC and having a time or place to drive it on any of the 7 days per week.

Honestly.. I don't know WTF I want to do and it's driving me insane. If there's ONE reason why I don't want to move to NYC, it's because I cannot own and reasonably utilize a car to the extent I would want to.

I've considered moving to Austin and Cali, to your point, but NYC is where careers are made.. and it's just a fantastic city that I most definitely want to live in before I'm 30.

Also, re: depreciation, I'm of the belief that the E60s have pretty much reached their price floor and we'll see the 08+s in decent condition to hover around the mid-30s ~ mid 40s mark for awhile. I'm not too worried about depreciation.

The fuel costs, OTOH, cry.gif.

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Originally Posted by impolyt_one View Post

Would rather have a Qporte automatika (whatever post-2008 model year that $54k would buy) at that price. Qporte with Tubi cans > S85 and SMG

Yeah.. and maintenance would cost you $5K/year!

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Originally Posted by LawrenceMD View Post

just get a "beater" m3 or m5 (if they exist).... you know something under $10K, something that you can street park without being stressed out. bumper bullies aren't going to stop side scrapes, front bumper scrapes, door dings, hail storm damage. thats right we got 1" spherical sized HAIL last year (IN THE MIDDLE OF JULY) when fucking small tornadoes swept through brooklyn/queens... its happened in 2010,2011, and 2012.

those specific M's are always in danger of being stolen here as well. hell a fellow SF'er had his bmw stolen recently (sorry for your loss mark frown.gif )

Even if you have parking/garage and only drive it on weekends you're still going to be in situations where you'll have to parallel park in soho (on uneven cobble stone streets that also have uneven cobblestoned curbs, chinatown (for the obvious reasons), and super cramped streets that have active bike lanes (where cars/bikes/vans/trucks/skateboarders/tourist) pass by with inches of clearance 100x a day).

There are areas of the brooklyn-queens expressway, queens boulevard, Franklin Roosevelt Drive, 45% of manhattan/NYC streets that are just plain shitty to drive on due to potholes and broken down roads.

if you can afford it... having any car in NYC is awesome, especially on weekend trips/shopping/grocery runs, dates, visiting family, and especially at night when traffic is gone you want to go somewhere. The ideal car here is a beater... what type of beater is up to you.

Yeah.. I mean, I'm more worried about the parking situation. or to be more precise, parking when you're GOING somewhere. If I was absolutely positive I was going to get a car in NYC, I'd spring for the nicer car and just pay monthly for the parking garage. But to your point, it'd be a bitch to find parking anywhere I'd go.

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Originally Posted by whiteslashasian View Post

American fetish for manual gearboxes? That's something new confused.gif

GF. I see an Interlagos blue M5 with only 10k miles for $37k in Boston. Too bad it's the SMG. Such low miles though...

Link?!

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Originally Posted by gomestar View Post

my ideal situation would be if Frog moved to NYC after buying that M5, then I'd just slip him $60 and a full tank of gas so I can take the car to buy my Lysol and Tide at the Target in Jersey City followed by ramps and carrots at the markets in the Bronx.

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We could arrange for that!
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Originally Posted by Rumpelstiltskin View Post

@ Froggy

Just move to Long(guh) Island and you can blast up and down Southern State, Cross Island and the Belt Parkway

Sorry, but hells no.
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Originally Posted by LawrenceMD View Post

given GF's track record with getting snagged by highway patrol for speeding tickets... those specific highways will bankrupt (and possibly imprison) him before memorial day weekend.

This.

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^you're in your twenties? Go to New York, live large. You have plenty of time for cars later
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^ or tell him to shut the fuck up already and quit over thinking it in public. You want it or you don't.
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Originally Posted by Cary Grant View Post

^you're in your twenties? Go to New York, live large. You have plenty of time for cars later

Yessir..

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Originally Posted by idfnl View Post

^ or tell him to shut the fuck up already and quit over thinking it in public. You want it or you don't.

I love that you're all riled up. I'm seriously going to talk about BMWs forever and ever until you voluntarily stop posting in this thread.

You literally add zero value and no one cares about your opinions.

Seriously, leave. No one wants you here; you're an outcast. Just... leave.
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Originally Posted by GreenFrog View Post

I love that you're all riled up. I'm seriously going to talk about BMWs forever and ever until you voluntarily stop posting in this thread.

You literally add zero value and no one cares about your opinions.

Seriously, leave. No one wants you here; you're an outcast. Just... leave.


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The FCM would like to know what search terms you typed into Google to find this gif.

Similarly, the fact that you would invest the time to find a gif and post one as opposed to a regular text response completely negates the 'yawn, I don't care' attitude you are precisely intending to portray.

Lulz.
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technology is ruining cars

pretty soon as in right now you can't find a sports car with a proper gearbox
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Originally Posted by GreenFrog View Post

The FCM would like to know what search terms you typed into Google to find this gif.

"Yawn gif"

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Originally Posted by GreenFrog View Post

Similarly, the fact that you would invest the time to find a gif and post one as opposed to a regular text response completely negates the 'yawn, I don't care' attitude you are precisely intending to portray.

Lulz.


Approx 15 seconds. You keep trying to sell us on that car, kid.
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